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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:59 pm
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Like many in here, I've stalled on reading War of Honor. I think I am about
a 5th of the way through it, if that. Honor seems to have lost a lot
recently. So before I can choke down War, I need a rest. Don't get me wrong,
've been devouring every DW book I can lay my hands on to read. So except
for War and the 4 Honoverse edited by him, I have read everything, I
believe. Except one:

Anyway, I needed break from the saga. So I picked up and started reading
1632 by Eric Flint. Finished it a week ago. Now before anyone starts jumping
up and down about that not being a DW book, I read it as a prelude to 1633
written by both EF and DW.

If you haven't read it, give it a try. My knowledge on the Thirty Years War
was a bit scanty, so I started reading up on it as well. Interesting to see
the blend between the real history and the alternate history. The mechanics
for how a town in West Virginia gets transported back was a bit thin, but
mildly amusing. But they were designed for one thing and one thing only- get
the town of Grantville into the European Middle Ages. 1632 is a good book,
if a bit on the teary patrotic side.

1633 picks up where 1632 leaves off. It is firmly in the alternate history
now. The character developement is better adn shows a lot of depth to them.
The politics are interesting. One of the things I like the best is the
combination of modern and Middle Age technology.
The one good villiam (Simpson for those familiar with it) starts showing a
lot more depth and is interesting.

One of the best things I like about it is it shows real world mechanics. No
fusion or fission drives nor alpha/beta nodes in sight. It has almost none
of the Star Trek technobabble.

For those who have read the Starfire books, Honor books, or Bahzel books,
this is a good change of pace. Pick up 1632 first, otherwise, you'll be lost
on who is whoa dn why they are so. Even better before starting 1632, read up
a bit on the Thirty Years War to get an idea of what kind of world they are
going to have to contend with.

Coyote

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:52 pm
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Coyote <Spamblock RemoveThis @incirlik.net> wrote:


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 > If you haven't read it, give it a try. My knowledge on the Thirty Years War
 > was a bit scanty, so I started reading up on it as well. Interesting to see
 > the blend between the real history and the alternate history. The mechanics
 > for how a town in West Virginia gets transported back was a bit thin, but
 > mildly amusing. But they were designed for one thing and one thing only- get
 > the town of Grantville into the European Middle Ages. 1632 is a good book,
 > if a bit on the teary patrotic side.
 >
 > 1633 picks up where 1632 leaves off. It is firmly in the alternate history
 > now. The character developement is better adn shows a lot of depth to them.
 > The politics are interesting. One of the things I like the best is the
 > combination of modern and Middle Age technology.

You need to read up a bit more on real history. By 1632 the Middle
Ages has been over for some 200 years, and we are well into the
renaissance (and maybe even out of it, depending on how one views it.)
(The exact years for the transitions between the historical periods
also vary quite a bit between different countries, but by 1632 even the
most backwards areas of Europe could no longer be considered to belong
to the Middle Ages.)

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:15 am
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:59:21 +0200, "Coyote" <Spamblock.DeleteThis@incirlik.net>
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 >The one good villiam (Simpson for those familiar with it) starts showing a
 >lot more depth and is interesting.

According to Eric, and I would never dare disagree, _1632_ was never
intended as a multi part series so everyone outside the main
protagonists were just basic sketches, This lead to a lot of criticism
on rec.arts.sf.written not really eased when he and DW wrote the
sequel ("Why have you changed Simpon's attitudes?" being the sort of
comment he got then...)
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