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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:27 pm
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In article <6391s5F25m8bjU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
Sabremeister Brian <bpwakeling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Reader in Invisible Writings <markfoweraker.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>> Wonder wrote:
>>> Saw the pic last night heres the link Smile
>>>
>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article871847.ece
>>>
>>>
>> Forwarded the link to my son who said "Is that Wuffles he has
>> on his arm?" Using ImageZoom in Firefox, it certainly looks
>> like a front and rear paw (brindle) and probably the rest of
>> the body in black, so I would say Wuffles alert!!!!
>
>I always thought Wuffles was white. He's been noticeably
>light-coloured in the Kidby drawings, certainly. He doesn't appear
>to be on the cover of Sourcery (unless he's behind the barcode),
>and I don't have a copy of TT to see if he's on there or not.

Given the age most such dogs live to (or don't live to), it has
been speculated in the past that there had to have been many
little dogs, each of which was named Wuffles. Anyway, this is
so early in the series that maybe this Wuffles was younger and
still had dark hair.

=Tamar

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:19 am
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On 2008-03-10, Reader in Invisible Writings <markfoweraker RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Erk! In the trailer I thought TwoFlower at first was one of the
>> directors or crew where the others are the characters! His costume
>> and manner looks "American"
>>
>> - Richard
>>
> And your point being?
>
> Right, I know many now see Paul Kidby's illustrations as definitive, but
> others have recently remarked on this group that they have always seen
> the camera wielding, rich and outlandishly dressed tourist as American,
> rather than Chinese. It is also probably 'safer' in these PC times to
> appear to parody a Caucasian rather than another group. Also, on the
> plane, Two Flower's alter ego seems more Transatlantic rather than
> transcontinental.

It was just an observation. Whether it is telling of me, or telling of
the production I don't know.

In so many trailers or documentary snippets about films you may see bits
of films or characters talking but you'll also see interviews with the
director or senior crew members. Two Flower looked like that until I
watched again and realised.

There are some crew jobs there I'd love to do. Whether they're as fun
when you get to doing them day in and day out I don't know, though
they're creative which is always nice! It would mean a lot of time away
from home though doing that kind of work. Even in my computing career
it's been a choice between lots of exiting projects but living out of
hotels half of my life, or more steady work but chance of more of a home
life. Better stick to amateur theatre for my creative work.

- Richard

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:21 pm
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Richard Corfield wrote:
> On 2008-03-10, Reader in Invisible Writings <markfoweraker DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Erk! In the trailer I thought TwoFlower at first was one of the
>>> directors or crew where the others are the characters! His costume
>>> and manner looks "American"
>>>
>>> - Richard
>>>
>> And your point being?
>>
>> Right, I know many now see Paul Kidby's illustrations as definitive, but
>> others have recently remarked on this group that they have always seen
>> the camera wielding, rich and outlandishly dressed tourist as American,
>> rather than Chinese. It is also probably 'safer' in these PC times to
>> appear to parody a Caucasian rather than another group. Also, on the
>> plane, Two Flower's alter ego seems more Transatlantic rather than
>> transcontinental.
>
> It was just an observation. Whether it is telling of me, or telling of
> the production I don't know.
>
> In so many trailers or documentary snippets about films you may see bits
> of films or characters talking but you'll also see interviews with the
> director or senior crew members. Two Flower looked like that until I
> watched again and realised.
>
> There are some crew jobs there I'd love to do. Whether they're as fun
> when you get to doing them day in and day out I don't know, though
> they're creative which is always nice! It would mean a lot of time away
> from home though doing that kind of work. Even in my computing career
> it's been a choice between lots of exiting projects but living out of
> hotels half of my life, or more steady work but chance of more of a home
> life. Better stick to amateur theatre for my creative work.

For TLF/TCOM, I thing Twoflower works better as an Omerican than an
Oriental, though he comes from the Aurient, which is a clue. A slight
cultural unexpectedness in that we Brits expect to share a language with
Americans, and A-M definitely does not with TF initially. Though he must
be quite a linguist - I couldn't get from nothing to
reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits in about a day.

But it is surely going to play hell wiht Interesting Times. Though,
AFAIR the physique of the inhabitants of the Counterweight Continent is
never mentioned, so not necessity for "yellow" skins and "slanty" eyes.
But it is loaded with China/Japan references which wil clash with an
American: tonal language, eating everything, paper walls, firecrackers
at funerals, three-part names, sumo, ninja, buried ceramic army, paper
currency, men with swords oppressing peasants, early cannon, advancement
by poetry exams, run by civil service, thousand year eggs... wich will
be difficult to reconcile with an "American" tourist,
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:08 am
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In article <63oba4F26qirjU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
Alec Cawley <alec DeleteThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
>> Reader in Invisible Writings <markfoweraker DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Erk! In the trailer I thought TwoFlower at first was one of the
>>>> directors or crew where the others are the characters! His costume
>>>> and manner looks "American"
<snip>

>For TLF/TCOM, I thing Twoflower works better as an Omerican than an
>Oriental, though he comes from the Aurient, which is a clue. A slight
>cultural unexpectedness in that we Brits expect to share a language with
>Americans, and A-M definitely does not with TF initially. Though he must
>be quite a linguist - I couldn't get from nothing to
>reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits in about a day.

By the end of TLF he's speaking A-M fairly easily. However, that may
have been an undocumented result of the change spell at the beginning
of TLF.

>But it is surely going to play hell with Interesting Times. Though,
>AFAIR the physique of the inhabitants of the Counterweight Continent is
>never mentioned, so not necessity for "yellow" skins and "slanty" eyes.

Rincewind passes for an subject of the Agatean Empire without anybody
questioning his appearance.

>But it is loaded with China/Japan references which will clash with an
>American: tonal language, eating everything, paper walls, firecrackers
>at funerals, three-part names, sumo, ninja, buried ceramic army, paper
>currency, men with swords oppressing peasants, early cannon, advancement
>by poetry exams, run by civil service, thousand year eggs... wich will
>be difficult to reconcile with an "American" tourist,

There is an area of western China where people of Caucasian appearance
have been Chinese for centuries; also, consider the mummies of Urum-Chi,
which are Caucasian. TwoFlower may have had an ancestor from there,
or maybe on the Disc they were dominant genetically yet the culture
was still Agatean.

=Tamar
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:50 pm
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"Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Right, I know many now see Paul Kidby's illustrations as definitive, but
> others have recently remarked on this group that they have always seen the
> camera wielding, rich and outlandishly dressed tourist as American, rather
> than Chinese. It is also probably 'safer' in these PC times to appear to
> parody a Caucasian rather than another group.

Safer for whom? Why would it be any more or less acceptable to parody a
caucasian instead of any other "racial" group? Are only caucasians immune
to stereotyping? Or are they just being punished for the stupidity of their
forebearers?

-- Dave
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:03 pm
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"Dave Adalian" <dave.adalian DeleteThis @sbcglobal.nospam.net> wrote:

> "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > Right, I know many now see Paul Kidby's illustrations as definitive, but
> > others have recently remarked on this group that they have always seen the
> > camera wielding, rich and outlandishly dressed tourist as American, rather
> > than Chinese. It is also probably 'safer' in these PC times to appear to
> > parody a Caucasian rather than another group.
>
> Safer for whom? Why would it be any more or less acceptable to parody a
> caucasian instead of any other "racial" group?

Not in Russia, it wouldn't. Before you know it Nazarbayev has your
number.

Richard
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On Mar 11, 10:21 pm, Alec Cawley <a....DeleteThis@spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
>
> For TLF/TCOM, I thing Twoflower works better as an Omerican than an
> Oriental, though he comes from the Aurient, which is a clue. A slight
> cultural unexpectedness in that we Brits expect to share a language with
> Americans, and A-M definitely does not with TF initially. Though he must
> be quite a linguist - I couldn't get from nothing to
> reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits in about a day.
>
It was Rincewind who was the linguist. Twoflower was speaking to him
in the language of the beTrobi, which he was already familiar with
before. Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits itself was probably an
Agathean term, as well as inn-sewer-ants, or more precisely
Rincewind's interpretations of Twoflower's pronunciation.

Anery
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:02 am
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Dave Adalian wrote:
> "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47d58839$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>> Right, I know many now see Paul Kidby's illustrations as definitive, but
>> others have recently remarked on this group that they have always seen the
>> camera wielding, rich and outlandishly dressed tourist as American, rather
>> than Chinese. It is also probably 'safer' in these PC times to appear to
>> parody a Caucasian rather than another group.
>
> Safer for whom? Why would it be any more or less acceptable to parody a
> caucasian instead of any other "racial" group? Are only caucasians immune
> to stereotyping? Or are they just being punished for the stupidity of their
> forebearers?
>
> -- Dave
>
>
Safer for the producers against the PC brigade. What American's call
WASPs can be safely ridiculed and parodied but not 'minorities' unless
you are one of them. cf Lenny Henry is the only comic who could do PC
Rasta (as in Police Constable) or jokes about 'it's only because I'm
black'. People have wanted a ban on repeats of 'It ain't half hot Mum'
because the lead Indian character is played by an white actor in make up.

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:07 am
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Anery wrote:
> On Mar 11, 10:21 pm, Alec Cawley <a....RemoveThis@spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
>> For TLF/TCOM, I thing Twoflower works better as an Omerican than an
>> Oriental, though he comes from the Aurient, which is a clue. A slight
>> cultural unexpectedness in that we Brits expect to share a language with
>> Americans, and A-M definitely does not with TF initially. Though he must
>> be quite a linguist - I couldn't get from nothing to
>> reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits in about a day.
>>
> It was Rincewind who was the linguist. Twoflower was speaking to him
> in the language of the beTrobi, which he was already familiar with
> before. Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits itself was probably an
> Agathean term, as well as inn-sewer-ants, or more precisely
> Rincewind's interpretations of Twoflower's pronunciation.

But he managed to get enought of a conversation with the innkeeper to
sell him inn-sewer-ants without Rincewind's help. Of course he used his
own language for words that Morporkian doesn't have, but the rest of the
conversation must have been intelligible. Rincewind would have foreseen
the disaster that happened.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:09 am
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Reader in Invisible Writings wrote:
> Dave Adalian wrote:
>> "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:47d58839$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>>> Right, I know many now see Paul Kidby's illustrations as definitive,
>>> but others have recently remarked on this group that they have always
>>> seen the camera wielding, rich and outlandishly dressed tourist as
>>> American, rather than Chinese. It is also probably 'safer' in these
>>> PC times to appear to parody a Caucasian rather than another group.
>>
>> Safer for whom? Why would it be any more or less acceptable to parody
>> a caucasian instead of any other "racial" group? Are only caucasians
>> immune to stereotyping? Or are they just being punished for the
>> stupidity of their forebearers?
>>
>> -- Dave
>>
> Safer for the producers against the PC brigade. What American's call
> WASPs can be safely ridiculed and parodied but not 'minorities' unless
> you are one of them. cf Lenny Henry is the only comic who could do PC
> Rasta (as in Police Constable) or jokes about 'it's only because I'm
> black'. People have wanted a ban on repeats of 'It ain't half hot Mum'
> because the lead Indian character is played by an white actor in make up.

Sascha Baron-Cohen, wjitt Jewish, managed to get away with "Is it
because I is black" in character as Ali G.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:17 am
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"Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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People have wanted a ban on repeats of 'It ain't half hot Mum'
> because the lead Indian character is played by an white actor in make up.

Which people?

My experience is that when an old movie or TV show is on where a European
actor in make-up plays an Indian they watch and laugh along with everyone
else.

The single exception seems to be 'Carry on up the Khyber', which Indians
seem to find funny in a very different way to Europeans...

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I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
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On Mar 13, 9:07 am, Alec Cawley <a... DeleteThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
> Anery wrote:
> > On Mar 11, 10:21 pm, Alec Cawley <a... DeleteThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> For TLF/TCOM, I thing Twoflower works better as an Omerican than an
> >> Oriental, though he comes from the Aurient, which is a clue. A slight
> >> cultural unexpectedness in that we Brits expect to share a language with
> >> Americans, and A-M definitely does not with TF initially. Though he must
> >> be quite a linguist - I couldn't get from nothing to
> >> reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits in about a day.
>
> > It was Rincewind who was the linguist. Twoflower was speaking to him
> > in the language of the beTrobi, which he was already familiar with
> > before. Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits itself was probably an
> > Agathean term, as well as inn-sewer-ants, or more precisely
> > Rincewind's interpretations of Twoflower's pronunciation.
>
> But he managed to get enought of a conversation with the innkeeper to
> sell him inn-sewer-ants without Rincewind's help. Of course he used his
> own language for words that Morporkian doesn't have, but the rest of the
> conversation must have been intelligible. Rincewind would have foreseen
> the disaster that happened.

"You give me (points at appropriate amount of A-M money). Your hotel,
tavern, lodging house, inn, hospice, caravanserai on fire, you get
(shows appropriate amount of golden rhinu). This called inn-sewer-
ants."
It was more about people skills and the talk of gold than linguistic
skills, IMO. And luck, FCVO the word. And Twoflower might have been to
some extent prepared for such sort of conversation. It was his job,
after all.

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:11 pm
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In a speech called franuo$ndh$1@registered.motzarella.org,
William Black <william.black RemoveThis @hotmail.co.uk> said:
> "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote in message
> news:47d8d173_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> People have wanted a ban on repeats of 'It ain't half hot Mum'
>> because the lead Indian character is played by an white actor
>> in make up.
>
> Which people?
>
> My experience is that when an old movie or TV show is on where
> a European actor in make-up plays an Indian they watch and
> laugh along with everyone else.
>
> The single exception seems to be 'Carry on up the Khyber', which
> Indians seem to find funny in a very different way to
> Europeans...

Would that be in the same way that even amateur historians find
Braveheart funny?

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:19 pm
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"Sabremeister Brian" <bpwakeling.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In a speech called franuo$ndh$1@registered.motzarella.org,
> William Black <william.black.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> said:
>> "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfoweraker.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in message
>> news:47d8d173_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> People have wanted a ban on repeats of 'It ain't half hot Mum'
>>> because the lead Indian character is played by an white actor
>>> in make up.
>>
>> Which people?
>>
>> My experience is that when an old movie or TV show is on where
>> a European actor in make-up plays an Indian they watch and
>> laugh along with everyone else.
>>
>> The single exception seems to be 'Carry on up the Khyber', which Indians
>> seem to find funny in a very different way to
>> Europeans...
>
> Would that be in the same way that even amateur historians find Braveheart
> funny?
>

No.

The bits they find funny are the bits that are nasty about Indian
aristocrats and Muslim fanatics.

The Brits laugh at the dinner party scene, considered by many to be the
funniest scene in British cinema.

Indians don't find it funny at all, they expect the British to behave like
that...


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I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:19 pm
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Anery wrote:
> On Mar 13, 9:07 am, Alec Cawley <a... RemoveThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
>> Anery wrote:
>>> On Mar 11, 10:21 pm, Alec Cawley <a... RemoveThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> For TLF/TCOM, I thing Twoflower works better as an Omerican than an
>>>> Oriental, though he comes from the Aurient, which is a clue. A slight
>>>> cultural unexpectedness in that we Brits expect to share a language with
>>>> Americans, and A-M definitely does not with TF initially. Though he must
>>>> be quite a linguist - I couldn't get from nothing to
>>>> reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits in about a day.
>>> It was Rincewind who was the linguist. Twoflower was speaking to him
>>> in the language of the beTrobi, which he was already familiar with
>>> before. Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits itself was probably an
>>> Agathean term, as well as inn-sewer-ants, or more precisely
>>> Rincewind's interpretations of Twoflower's pronunciation.
>> But he managed to get enought of a conversation with the innkeeper to
>> sell him inn-sewer-ants without Rincewind's help. Of course he used his
>> own language for words that Morporkian doesn't have, but the rest of the
>> conversation must have been intelligible. Rincewind would have foreseen
>> the disaster that happened.
>
> "You give me (points at appropriate amount of A-M money). Your hotel,
> tavern, lodging house, inn, hospice, caravanserai on fire, you get
> (shows appropriate amount of golden rhinu). This called inn-sewer-
> ants."
> It was more about people skills and the talk of gold than linguistic
> skills, IMO. And luck, FCVO the word. And Twoflower might have been to
> some extent prepared for such sort of conversation. It was his job,
> after all.
>
> Anery
Please excuse me if this is obvious, but the point being made is that
Two Flower would have used his phrase book to sell inn-sewer-ants in
case of fire, conflagration, inflammable destruction, incineration,
burning down.

Also Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits is a de-construct of
Echo-gnome-ics. Gnomes being understood as underground fairies (cf
Feegles are fairy folk)

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[ANNOUNCE][F] Reminder: Cambridge Meet, Saturday 22nd Nove.. - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- There is still to be a Cambridge Meet to be held from 7pm in the Panton Arms on Saturday 22nd Novembr (this Saturday). <text pasted from my post to afp:> The meet is at 7pm in the Panton arms, and there is so...

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[R] Monstrous Regiment - Thalacephalos - Since reading Monstrous Regiment I've been plagued by a question regarding the name of Lieutenant Blouse's horse; 'Thalacephalos.. (named after)...the legendary stallion of General Tacticus'. This is a reference to Bucephalos, the legendary stallion of....

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