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Ozzie wrote:
 > Will -- here's an analysis and suggestions as promised.
 >
 > A typical verse from your archives ---
 >
 > Crescent moon
 > on just fresh Autumn
 > waves lapping
 > from the river.
 > Myth and reality at once.
 > Bon Bon
 > Good good early chill.
 > Memory like a haunting shadow.
 >
 > This verse illustrates your primary difficulty: disconnected images.
These
 > fragments create an emotional response in you because you're seeing
the
 > whole picture in your mind, including the narrative that connects
those
 > images. By simply recording individual images, however, you are not
 > conveying what you feel to the reader.
 >
 > Let's see if we can create a narrative from the parts.
 >
 > A crescent moon shines on the
 > fresh autumn waves lapping
 > from the river.
 > An early chill stalks my memory
 > like a haunting shadow.
 >
 > If I blink I can feel myth and reality at once.
 > ---------------------------
 >
 > This isn't very good because it doesn't lead anywhere, but it
illustrates
 > the point: Use your images (some of which are quite good) to create a
 > coherent narrative. This needn't be dull or academic - look at
Gregory's
 > poem, I Am 25, reproduced in the newsgroup. Wild and wooly and
 > quintessential Corso - but with a distinct story line.
 >
 > Here's another example from Bukowski:
 >
 > drunk
 > ol' Bukowski drunk
 > drunk*
 >
 > I hold to the edge of the table
 > with my belly dangling over my belt
 >
 > and I glare at the lampshade
 > the smoke clearing
 > over
 > North Hollywood
 >
 > the boys put their muskets down
 > lift high their fish-green beer
 >
 > I fall off the couch
 > kiss rug hairs like cunt
 > hairs
 >
 > close as I've been in a
 > long time.
 > ------------------------------
 >
 > Do you see the story he's telling? Going in reverse here's how
you
 > might've written this:
 >
 > The edge of the table
 > Belly dangling over belt
 >
 > The lampshade hides yellow light
 > smoke clears over north Hollywood
 >
 > boys putting muskets down
 > their beer is fish-green
 > guzzle guzzle
 >
 > The heavy couch
 > Rug hairs like cunt hairs
 > --------------------------------------------------
 > I just disconnected the images from the narrative.
 >
 > Simply taking narrative into consideration will bring your poems to a
new
 > level very quickly. It was fun writing this analysis - I'd be
happy to
 > discuss it further.

Thanks for the observation, I see from bukowski's descriptive verse
that keeping it simple but keeping a focus, a narrative flow, works
much better. I'll work with getting some similar attention to detail
into the re-write of "Gold Like A Broken Ring".

If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing, perhaps
you'll have an idea on where to take it:

----
Tuesday With Little Spain.

And I am shoved back into this night life.
Well, she said, she said, she said it was impossible.
There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
wander these dark corridors of memory.

I sleep so deep, I don't like to sleep,
my dreams threaten to take me away.
Floating in a sea of bad vibes,
I do these things over and over,
repentatively, feel regret but keep doing it over and over.
Then the whole thing becomes a blur.

Grey and pasted, patched together with spackling
and sheet rock mud, a disgusted perversion of humanity.
During the decline and fall of poetry,
in the summer of sardonic excess,
I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
and felt her softness.

Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
brought down from Blue Territory,
no longer in Blue Territory.
I wandered by a cold river
in the flaming copper land of summer.

This complete process of remaking we had,
your mix of pales and shades,
your, disctinctive, mythic self,
one distinct sing of your eyes...
I must bitterly understand our fate, we were never meant to be,
Like lost in the mirror'd rooms of a crazy house.

Crimson on the napkins,
pink fuzz on the clover.
Maneuver to the left, and forward,
into a mud soaked future.

-Will Dockery 1998
----

Thanks again, Ozzie. Good to have some really helpful critique on these
shallow wastelands of jeering hecklers.

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And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:14 pm
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In article <1113431405.545343.290220 RemoveThis @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery <shamankickboxer RemoveThis @hotmail.com> said:

 > Good to have some really helpful critique on these
 > shallow wastelands of jeering hecklers.

New entry for the dictionary --

Main Entry: pizzabitchbabblewhine
Pronunciation: 'pEt-s&-bich-'ba-b&l-'wIn
Function: verb
Etymology: early 21st century goatroper (drunkard dialect)
1 : to utter in a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry
in objectionable or unpleasant incoherent or meaningless
terms containing no truth, good morals, or bravery
2 : to send forth bullshit as a sound in a pizzagirl manner
3 : dockeryspeak

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:59 am
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If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing, perhaps
you'll have an idea on where to take it:

I played with your poem. It's like connect the dots on a Pollock
painting. Whee!
L

----
Tuesday, With Little Spain.

And so
I am shoved back into this night.

Well, she said,
she said,
it was impossible.
"There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
it wanders these dark corridors of memory."

I sleep so deep that I don't like to sleep,
my dreams are an undertow.
I do these things over and over,
repent, regret but keep doing it.

Spackled with sheet rock mud,
During the decline and fall of poetry,
in the summer of sardonic excess,
I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
and felt her softness.

Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
brought down from Blue Territory,
I wandered by a cold river with her
in the flaming land of summer.
Enraptured again, entangled again.

This complete process of remaking we had,
your mix of pales and shades,
your disctinctive, mythic self,
one distinct song of your eyes...
You will only remake what was,
And I know it now and then
and I will know it again.

Look at me, Blue Territory Girl
Suck the pink honey from the clover.
Maneuver to the left, and forward,
into a mud soaked future.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:25 am
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In article <1113469166.750349.262130.RemoveThis@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Leila <leilabee.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> said:

 > If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing, perhaps
 > you'll have an idea on where to take it:

What Cat would do: Grab a blank sheet of paper and
start over with a whole different set of words.

 > I played with your poem. It's like connect the dots on a Pollock
 > painting. Whee!
 > L
 >
 > ----
 > Tuesday, With Little Spain.
 >
 > And so
 > I am shoved back into this night.
 >
 > Well, she said,
 > she said,
 > it was impossible.
 > "There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
 > it wanders these dark corridors of memory."
 >
 > I sleep so deep that I don't like to sleep,
 > my dreams are an undertow.
 > I do these things over and over,
 > repent, regret but keep doing it.
 >
 > Spackled with sheet rock mud,
 > During the decline and fall of poetry,
 > in the summer of sardonic excess,
 > I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
 > and felt her softness.
 >
 > Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
 > brought down from Blue Territory,
 > I wandered by a cold river with her
 > in the flaming land of summer.
 > Enraptured again, entangled again.
 >
 > This complete process of remaking we had,
 > your mix of pales and shades,
 > your disctinctive, mythic self,
 > one distinct song of your eyes...
 > You will only remake what was,
 > And I know it now and then
 > and I will know it again.
 >
 > Look at me, Blue Territory Girl
 > Suck the pink honey from the clover.
 > Maneuver to the left, and forward,
 > into a mud soaked future.

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j r sherman wrote:
 > In article <20050414104118.753$77@newsreader.com>, Biljo White
says...
  > >
  > >"Will Dockery" <shamankickboxer.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
  > >
  > >Will - I'll try to get to it in the next few days -- glad you liked
my
  > >previous comments.
  > >
  > >Ozzie
 >
 > trust me, Ozzie, he didn't like your comments at all.
 >
 > what's worse is that he won't follow a single bit of good advice you
gave him.
 > wanting to write good poetry is not what dockery is about.
 >
 > you gave him some really good advice, it's too bad he won't follow a
word of it.
 >
 >
 > j r sherman

you're an asshole, j r.
 >
 >
 >
   > >>
   > >> If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing,
perhaps
   > >> you'll have an idea on where to take it:
   > >>
   > >> ----
   > >> Tuesday With Little Spain.
   > >>
   > >> And I am shoved back into this night life.
   > >> Well, she said, she said, she said it was impossible.
   > >> There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
   > >> wander these dark corridors of memory.
   > >>
   > >> I sleep so deep, I don't like to sleep,
   > >> my dreams threaten to take me away.
   > >> Floating in a sea of bad vibes,
   > >> I do these things over and over,
   > >> repentatively, feel regret but keep doing it over and over.
   > >> Then the whole thing becomes a blur.
   > >>
   > >> Grey and pasted, patched together with spackling
   > >> and sheet rock mud, a disgusted perversion of humanity.
   > >> During the decline and fall of poetry,
   > >> in the summer of sardonic excess,
   > >> I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
   > >> and felt her softness.
   > >>
   > >> Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
   > >> brought down from Blue Territory,
   > >> no longer in Blue Territory.
   > >> I wandered by a cold river
   > >> in the flaming copper land of summer.
   > >>
   > >> This complete process of remaking we had,
   > >> your mix of pales and shades,
   > >> your, disctinctive, mythic self,
   > >> one distinct sing of your eyes...
   > >> I must bitterly understand our fate, we were never meant to be,
   > >> Like lost in the mirror'd rooms of a crazy house.
   > >>
   > >> Crimson on the napkins,
   > >> pink fuzz on the clover.
   > >> Maneuver to the left, and forward,
   > >> into a mud soaked future.
   > >>
   > >> -Will Dockery 1998
   > >> ----
   > >>
   > >> Thanks again, Ozzie. Good to have some really helpful critique on
these
   > >> shallow wastelands of jeering hecklers.
 >
 >
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 > "I saw a werewolf drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's
 > And his hair was perfect."
 > Warren Zevon
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On 13 Apr 2005 15:30:05 -0700, "Will Dockery"
<shamankickboxer RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:


  >> This verse illustrates your primary difficulty: disconnected images.

No argument there.

 >These
  >> fragments create an emotional response in you because you're seeing
 >the
  >> whole picture in your mind, including the narrative that connects
 >those
  >> images. By simply recording individual images, however, you are not
  >> conveying what you feel to the reader.

No argument there.


  >> This isn't very good because it doesn't lead anywhere

No argument there.


, but it
 >illustrates
  >> the point: Use your images to create a
  >> coherent narrative.


No argument there.

  >>
  >> Simply taking narrative into consideration will bring your poems to a
 >new
  >> level very quickly.

No argument there.


Ozzie's comments on your poem could be repeated for every piece I've
ever seen from you,Will.

He said (in a much more palatable way) the same thing I say when I
type: Try to have your writing make sense.

You have no narrative flow, you just splat disconnected images
randomly on the page and expect it to be considered wonderful poetry.

Your writing doesn't make sense.

Maybe it's time you realize your limitations.

I realize that I'll never play major league baseball.

Maybe you should come to a similar realization regarding your writing.

You may never write a poem that makes sense.

For the most part, your hideously inept diary entry doodles can't be
saved through revision.

Try fucken describing something that exists in the physical world.

Baby steps. Read Colin's books that you've undoubtedly haven't
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:15 am
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j r sherman wrote:
 > ggamble says...
   > >> Biljo White says...
   > >>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
   > >>>
   > >>>Will - I'll try to get to it in the next few days -- glad you
liked my
   > >>>previous comments.
   > >>
   > >>trust me, Ozzie, he didn't like your comments at all.
   > >>
   > >>what's worse is that he won't follow a single bit of good advice
you gave him.
   > >>wanting to write good poetry is not what dockery is about.
   > >>
   > >>you gave him some really good advice, it's too bad he won't follow
a word of it.
  > >
  > >But, he will repost everything he's ever typed.
 >
 > yes, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over again.

While *you* do nothing but repeat the same one liners over and over.

When was the last time you willingly posted a poem, JRS?

 > but i'm curious as to why he's not responded to my question about how
he is able
 > to determine the quality of Ms Renay as a poet by reading only one of
her
 > poems

Once again, you're either confused or withholding the truth, JRS:

I've read at least a dozen of Renay Saint James' poems. Anyone can read
as many of her navel gazing confessional soap opera swipes, simply by
clicking this link:

<http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:gundersr%40ccmail.orst.edu+>

Heh. What was it you wrote yesterday about Google's ability to expose
your lies, JRS?

Hope this helps.

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On 14 Apr 2005 14:41:18 GMT, biljowhite DeleteThis @yahoo.com(Biljo White) wrote:

  >> perhaps you'll have an idea on where to take it:

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ggamble wrote:
 > On 14 Apr 2005 14:41:18 GMT, biljowhite.RemoveThis@yahoo.com(Biljo White) wrote:
 >
 >
   >>> perhaps you'll have an idea on where to take it:
  >>
 >
 > Take it back to your diary and leave it there.

And then lose the diary in a pool of beer vomit.

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In article <20050414104118.753$77@newsreader.com>, Biljo White says...
 >
 >"Will Dockery" <shamankickboxer.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
 >Will - I'll try to get to it in the next few days -- glad you liked my
 >previous comments.
 >
 >Ozzie

trust me, Ozzie, he didn't like your comments at all.

what's worse is that he won't follow a single bit of good advice you gave him.
wanting to write good poetry is not what dockery is about.

you gave him some really good advice, it's too bad he won't follow a word of it.


j r sherman



  >>
  >> If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing, perhaps
  >> you'll have an idea on where to take it:
  >>
  >> ----
  >> Tuesday With Little Spain.
  >>
  >> And I am shoved back into this night life.
  >> Well, she said, she said, she said it was impossible.
  >> There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
  >> wander these dark corridors of memory.
  >>
  >> I sleep so deep, I don't like to sleep,
  >> my dreams threaten to take me away.
  >> Floating in a sea of bad vibes,
  >> I do these things over and over,
  >> repentatively, feel regret but keep doing it over and over.
  >> Then the whole thing becomes a blur.
  >>
  >> Grey and pasted, patched together with spackling
  >> and sheet rock mud, a disgusted perversion of humanity.
  >> During the decline and fall of poetry,
  >> in the summer of sardonic excess,
  >> I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
  >> and felt her softness.
  >>
  >> Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
  >> brought down from Blue Territory,
  >> no longer in Blue Territory.
  >> I wandered by a cold river
  >> in the flaming copper land of summer.
  >>
  >> This complete process of remaking we had,
  >> your mix of pales and shades,
  >> your, disctinctive, mythic self,
  >> one distinct sing of your eyes...
  >> I must bitterly understand our fate, we were never meant to be,
  >> Like lost in the mirror'd rooms of a crazy house.
  >>
  >> Crimson on the napkins,
  >> pink fuzz on the clover.
  >> Maneuver to the left, and forward,
  >> into a mud soaked future.
  >>
  >> -Will Dockery 1998
  >> ----
  >>
  >> Thanks again, Ozzie. Good to have some really helpful critique on these
  >> shallow wastelands of jeering hecklers.


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Biljo White wrote:
 > "Will Dockery" wrote:
 >
 > Will - I'll try to get to it in the next few days -- glad you liked
my
 > previous comments.
 >
 > Ozzie

I liked the way you picked one "at random", also which makes for a more
unexpected experience, and more helpful, actually, since it examines an
area that I might not have been thinking of, a weakness I may not have
known existed.

  > > If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing,
perhaps
  > > you'll have an idea on where to take it:
  > >
  > > ----
  > > Tuesday With Little Spain.
  > >
  > > And I am shoved back into this night life.
  > > Well, she said, she said, she said it was impossible.
  > > There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
  > > wander these dark corridors of memory.
  > >
  > > I sleep so deep, I don't like to sleep,
  > > my dreams threaten to take me away.
  > > Floating in a sea of bad vibes,
  > > I do these things over and over,
  > > repentatively, feel regret but keep doing it over and over.
  > > Then the whole thing becomes a blur.
  > >
  > > Grey and pasted, patched together with spackling
  > > and sheet rock mud, a disgusted perversion of humanity.
  > > During the decline and fall of poetry,
  > > in the summer of sardonic excess,
  > > I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
  > > and felt her softness.
  > >
  > > Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
  > > brought down from Blue Territory,
  > > no longer in Blue Territory.
  > > I wandered by a cold river
  > > in the flaming copper land of summer.
  > >
  > > This complete process of remaking we had,
  > > your mix of pales and shades,
  > > your, disctinctive, mythic self,
  > > one distinct sing of your eyes...
  > > I must bitterly understand our fate, we were never meant to be,
  > > Like lost in the mirror'd rooms of a crazy house.
  > >
  > > Crimson on the napkins,
  > > pink fuzz on the clover.
  > > Maneuver to the left, and forward,
  > > into a mud soaked future.
  > >
  > > -Will Dockery 1998
  > > ----

I've been reading over the comments on this one so far, even an
interesting rewrite by Leila, which for some reason hasn't shown up on
Google, strangely.

I picked this one out of the archives because it'll be in the upcoming
self-published paperback and I plan to leave it almost intact... while
others I'm chopping and re-making almost entirely, and some I'll have
to leave hanging in the archives, for some future generation of
Dockerys to sort out.

Critique, commentary and even re-writes are welcomed, and all
interesting. But the comments to "burn it" or whatever, in the end, are
useless, as well as a waste of my and the commenter's time, since in
the end, whether to trash the poem or try to make it work will have to
remain my choice.

So... surprise me!

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And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:02 pm
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Barbara's Cat wrote:
 > In article <1113469166.750349.262130 DeleteThis @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
 > Leila <leilabee DeleteThis @hotmail.com> said:
 >
  > > If you have time, this is one I have a problem with changing,
perhaps
  > > you'll have an idea on where to take it:

Non, mon ami-not my poem, I just fucked with it for entertainmen't
sake. It's Will Dockery's. Did I leave off his name? Ack!
 >
 > What Cat would do: Grab a blank sheet of paper and
 > start over with a whole different set of words.
 >
  > > I played with your poem. It's like connect the dots on a Pollock
  > > painting. Whee!
  > > L
  > >
  > > ----
  > > Tuesday, With Little Spain.
  > >
  > > And so
  > > I am shoved back into this night.
  > >
  > > Well, she said,
  > > she said,
  > > it was impossible.
  > > "There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
  > > it wanders these dark corridors of memory."
  > >
  > > I sleep so deep that I don't like to sleep,
  > > my dreams are an undertow.
  > > I do these things over and over,
  > > repent, regret but keep doing it.
  > >
  > > Spackled with sheet rock mud,
  > > During the decline and fall of poetry,
  > > in the summer of sardonic excess,
  > > I sat with Little Spain on her steps,
  > > and felt her softness.
  > >
  > > Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
  > > brought down from Blue Territory,
  > > I wandered by a cold river with her
  > > in the flaming land of summer.
  > > Enraptured again, entangled again.
  > >
  > > This complete process of remaking we had,
  > > your mix of pales and shades,
  > > your disctinctive, mythic self,
  > > one distinct song of your eyes...
  > > You will only remake what was,
  > > And I know it now and then
  > > and I will know it again.
  > >
  > > Look at me, Blue Territory Girl
  > > Suck the pink honey from the clover.
  > > Maneuver to the left, and forward,
  > > into a mud soaked future.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:38 pm
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K. A. Cannon wrote:
 > "the messenjah" <theguyonthebike.TakeThisOut@veryfast.biz> posted
 > <1113499527.328429.179240.TakeThisOut@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> in
 > rec.arts.poems on 14 Apr 2005 10:25:27 -0700:
 >
  > >
  > >
  > >j r sherman wrote:
   > >> In article <20050414104118.753$77@newsreader.com>, Biljo White
  > >says...
   > >> >
   > >> >"Will Dockery" <shamankickboxer.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   > >> >
   > >> >Will - I'll try to get to it in the next few days -- glad you
liked
  > >my
   > >> >previous comments.
   > >> >
   > >> >Ozzie
   > >>
   > >> trust me, Ozzie, he didn't like your comments at all.
   > >>
   > >> what's worse is that he won't follow a single bit of good advice
you
  > >gave him.
   > >> wanting to write good poetry is not what dockery is about.
   > >>
   > >> you gave him some really good advice, it's too bad he won't follow
a
  > >word of it.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> j r sherman
  > >
  > >you're an asshole, j r.
 >
 > You're a cracker clown queer who rides a bike.

Remember Kevin, while you're running errands for your Daddy inside your
filthy factory in New Jersey, I'll be outside at a cafe having lunch
with a beautiful woman in sunny Florida. Keep that in mind...
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > K. A. Cannon
 > kcannon at insurgent dot org
 > (change the orgy to org to reply)
 >
 > Spirituality: The last refuge of a failed human.
 > Just another way of distracting yourself from who you really are.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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