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pandora

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Since: Apr 14, 2005
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(Msg. 76) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:40 pm
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"Will Dockery" <shamankickboxer.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1113844162.349384.220850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
 >
 > Will Dockery wrote:
  > > ggamble wrote:
   > > > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:05:50 -0700, "pandora" wrote:
   > > > >>
   > > > >> In fact, even your hated Pandora writes better poetry.
   > > > >
   > > > >Why, thank you will. I appreciate that. My poetry has been
  > > improving since
   > > > >I left these newsgroups. My poetry critique group is much better
 > at
   > > > >critiquing than anyone here was.
   > > > >> Hope this helps.
   > > > >
   > > > >It does. Indeed. Smile
   > > >
   > > > Translation: Everyone in my new fluff group *just loves*
 > everything
  > > I
   > > > write!

gamble seems to be claiming to be all-seeing in the above. Goes along with
his claims to being omnipotent, I guess.

  > > Or perhaps, if they hate the poetry, they have the skill to explain
 > why
  > > and how they feel it can be improved. Something you fail miserably at
  > > doing, Gamble.

Sometimes they hate it, sometimes they don't. They're extremely critical
and quite brutal in their assessment of what I (and others) write. So much
for gamble belieiving in a fairy tale of his own making. However, along
with the brutality, comes real intelligence, good (and fair) critique and
suggestions on improvement WITHOUT the personal insults that gamble would be
lost without. It's his schtick and he's sticking to it.

Marg<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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urbanasphalt2

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Since: Jan 23, 2005
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(Msg. 77) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:52 pm
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That's telling him, cowboy!

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hieronymous707

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Since: Jun 07, 2005
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(Msg. 78) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:31 am
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Dennis M. Hammes wrote:

> And therein lies a/the problem of all poultry/language in the first
> place.

My apology, as you can see my tendency to be pedantic,
but if what you see still looks to be completely semantic,
consider looking where another difference might be found -
Looky here, I mean hear, I mean with both sight and sound.
The differences are compounded when considered as syntactic,
not to mention the most obvious: as a matter of pragmatics.

Of course, that may "sound" idiotic,
but sound works well with semiotics.


_A Love Poem_

Love is
perceived
by the
faithful,
and known
to be
faithless.
Love kills
softly
with words.

-hi-
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Twittering One

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Since: Jun 07, 2005
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(Msg. 79) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:41 am
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Spinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ~ !"
~ Folly

"Age 13 years.
But, O, what are years ~ ?"
~ Twittering

*

"And therein lies a/the problem
Of all poultry/language in the first place."
~ Dennis

"Poultry,
What's that?"
~ Folly

Poverty paltry pouf Pouilly ~ Fuisse Pouilly ~
Fume poulard poult pounce pound cake poundage pound ~ foolish
pourparler pousse ~ café pousette pout poverty
line
4 pounds Sterling

"My apology ..."
~ Hier

"What's that?"
~ Twittering

"... as you can see, my technology, primitive,
My tendency, pedantic,
But if you see Kay, say Hey ~ !"
~ Hier

"O, indeed,
Will do, too."
~ Folly

"What you see
Still appears pedantically semantic,
Completely
Romantic, or Etruscan, so consider seeing,
Consider looking, if utterly lost,
Or quite simply raving Mad, Maddder than a Read Manhattan Hatttter
Maker ~
Where another difference might be found ~
Looky here, I mean hear,

I mean with both sight
And sound."
~ Hier

"Or tactile, too, or tiles
>From The Hyperbola, if you hyperventilate ..."
~ Axelated Isomer

"The differences are compounded, when considered
As syntactic, or strategic, or lacking tact,
Full of Pepper's mint advertisement,
Or Trident's 3 ~ pronged spear's intent, Hermes, O,
Yes, Hermeneutics,
If picked fresh. Quite simply, also known as alchemy."
~ Hier

"Of mind, or matter? Or
Merely, you, a messenger? If so, just
Say so ~ ! Eager ears, perky points must
Know."
~ Folly

"Or, bottle, a vessel, a time capsule, hermetically
Sealed? Or Ms.
Amy Clampit's hermit thrush, or perhaps
That Hermit crab, that Minotaur
Who lives alone inside a maze, that labyrinth
On The Far Side of Knossos ~ ?
~ Twittering

"... not to mention
The most obvious ~ As a matter of pragmatics."
~ Hier

"Or a
Course in Praxis? Or Equestrian Lessons, How To
Ride a Sea Horse, while in Crete?"
~ Twittering

"Of course,
That may 'sound' idiotic,
but sound works well with semiotics.

~ * A Love
Poem * ~

Love is
perceived
by the
faithful,
and known
to be
faithless.
Love kills
softly
with words."
~ Hier

"Hey ~ !
Seen my Thesaurus ~ ?"
~ Twittering

"The love, alleged, but pledged? The faithful know
Faithlessness. For killings of love follow,
Wound harshly ~ Softly,
Words may heal, offer antidote,
If spoken
By a lofty comforter ~ One who more often
More than comforts, but offers tokens
Of love,
Too. Spoken, by me,
To you, my token, slightly broken,
But hopeful, untarnished, if only dully glittering,
But I twitter ..."
~ Twittering
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