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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:08 pm
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Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.

Just finished it.

Wow.

It just keeps on getting better and better.

Can hardly wait for the next installment.

I am glad Victor finally found someone.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:14 am
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What???? It's not supposed to come out until Sep 1.

Robert Gehrig wrote:
 > Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.
 >
 > Just finished it.
 >
 > Wow.
 >
 > It just keeps on getting better and better.
 >
 > Can hardly wait for the next installment.
 >
 > I am glad Victor finally found someone.
 >
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:11 am
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At the **


 >From: Alex ve3leg.DeleteThis@hotmail.com

 >What???? It's not supposed to come out until Sep 1.

It's not supposed to be out until then, but that doesn't mean it will wait
until then. Remember Baen Books doesn't officially have street dates, just
suggestioned start selling dates. There is no penalty for starting to them sell
early. Now for the Ha Ha Ha, neaner neaner, part of my post. My local library
has been checking it out since the beginning of last week. That's right 2 weeks
early.I was the first pearson to get to check out a copy.

 >
 >Robert Gehrig wrote:
  >> Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.
  >>
  >> Just finished it.
  >>
  >> Wow.
  >>
  >> It just keeps on getting better and better.
  >>
  >> Can hardly wait for the next installment.
  >>
  >> I am glad Victor finally found someone.
  >>

I'd do what the voices in my head tell me, but they don't speak my language.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:15 pm
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grizlybyr1.TakeThisOut@aol.com (Jeff the Bear) wrote in
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 > At the **
 >
 >
  >>From: Alex ve3leg.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com
 >
  >>What???? It's not supposed to come out until Sep 1.
 >
 > It's not supposed to be out until then, but that doesn't mean it will
 > wait until then. Remember Baen Books doesn't officially have street
 > dates, just suggestioned start selling dates. There is no penalty for
 > starting to them sell early. Now for the Ha Ha Ha, neaner neaner, part
 > of my post. My local library has been checking it out since the
 > beginning of last week. That's right 2 weeks early.I was the first
 > pearson to get to check out a copy.
 >

I'll do better than that -- _my_ bookstore got an advance copy last month,
and gave it to me. Of course, I still haven't gotten my official copy yet.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:20 pm
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"Robert Gehrig" <robert.gehrig.TakeThisOut@gdbarri.com> wrote in message news:<eboregtruevttqoneevpbz.hk94es0.pminews.TakeThisOut@news.qwest.net>...
 > Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.
 >
 > Just finished it.
 >
 > Wow.
 >
 > It just keeps on getting better and better.
 >
 > Can hardly wait for the next installment.
 >
 > I am glad Victor finally found someone.

Or something.

One nice thing about e-books is that you don't have to wait for
shipping time. I finished a week ago. (neener neener neener)

As to the book: Much better than either AoV or WoH, both of which I
was very disappointed in. I think Honor and the magic treeponies have
outlived their usefulness. It was nice to see a fresh perspective. I
haven't kept score, but the infodumps and political posturing seemed
somewhat reduced, as well. I hope this sets a new trend for the
Honorverse.

I love the Mouse Queen as well. We shall see where this new thing
leads. Queen Liz may have a run for her money, and some subversion in
her own house if the original arc develops as Weber has outlined.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:40 pm
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On 28 Aug 2003 11:20:49 -0700, Jack Tingle wrote:

 >snip<

 >Or something.

<snip>

Not nice.

I think it is the beginning of a beautiful relationship.

The whole setup of the Planet will be interesting, as will its relationship
to both Manticore and the Republic.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:50 pm
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:14:41 -0400, Alex <ve3leg.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >Robert Gehrig wrote:
  >> Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.
  >>
  >> Just finished it.

 >What???? It's not supposed to come out until Sep 1.

  Really? It's on sale where I am and i live in New Zealand!
Okay it's a special import, but I can still buy it. The wonders of
the digital age Smile

=== You're reading the words of Toni ===
We shall see to which one the Olympian grants the glory.
Email: taiat.DeleteThis@mail.NYETSPAMcom (sub the NYETSPAM for guess what? Smile<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:11 am
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Jeff the Bear <grizlybyr1.DeleteThis@aol.com> (reaching for BOC) typed:

 > At the **

  >>From: Alex ve3leg.DeleteThis@hotmail.com

  >>What???? It's not supposed to come out until Sep 1.

 > It's not supposed to be out until then, but that doesn't
 > mean it will wait until then. Remember Baen Books doesn't
 > officially have street dates, just suggestioned start
 > selling dates. There is no penalty for starting to them
 > sell early. Now for the Ha Ha Ha, neaner neaner, part of
 > my post. My local library has been checking it out since
 > the beginning of last week. That's right 2 weeks early.
 > I was the first pearson to get to check out a copy.

That's OK. I think I downloaded my Webscriptions copy from
Baen on or about the 17th of August. <G>

 > I'd do what the voices in my head tell me, but they don't
 > speak my language.

I like that one, however I have a friend who usually say's
"Yeah, I hear voices in my head, but if I won't do what
other people tell me too, why should I do what someone I
can see tells me too?" <G> He's a little strange.

  Wolf,
  Bard

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 1:31 pm
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"Robert Gehrig" <robert.gehrig.RemoveThis@gdbarri.com> wrote in message news:<eboregtruevttqoneevpbz.hk94es0.pminews.RemoveThis@news.qwest.net>...
 > Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.
 >
 > Just finished it.
 >
 > Wow.
 >
 > It just keeps on getting better and better.
 >
 > Can hardly wait for the next installment.
 >
 > I am glad Victor finally found someone.

(My apologies if this looks odd; my PC's power supply died and took
out my motherboard and hard drive, so I'm stuck with Google groups and
my laptop).

SPOILERS
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Yeah, this one was great stuff; I like all the new characters quite a
bit. Wish they'd gone a little more into detail on the Sollies (it
seems accepted that the League is on the edge of civil war, but no
real detail as to WHY). Victor hysterically funny at parts; "Push the
button" I think replaces "Oops" for me as favorite short line in the
Honorverse (more fanatical than the Masadans! Smile).

--
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"Yes, I am a servant of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:38 am
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:31:52 -0700, Mike Bruner wrote:

 > SPOILERS
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 > Yeah, this one was great stuff; I like all the new characters quite a
 > bit. Wish they'd gone a little more into detail on the Sollies (it seems
 > accepted that the League is on the edge of civil war, but no real detail
 > as to WHY). Victor hysterically funny at parts; "Push the button" I
 > think replaces "Oops" for me as favorite short line in the Honorverse
 > (more fanatical than the Masadans! Smile).

I don't see that there's much question about why, see CoS chapter 12. The
SL has been a tinder box for a long time. What's changed is that there is
now a core in the Maya Sector and Torch for resistance to OFS to build
around; especially with Governor Barregos and Captain Rozsak working
together.

--
Mac :})
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Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:07 pm
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In article <pan.2003.09.07.00.37.59.150829 RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com>, Michael A
Chase <mchase RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:

 > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:31:52 -0700, Mike Bruner wrote:
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  > > Yeah, this one was great stuff; I like all the new characters quite a
  > > bit. Wish they'd gone a little more into detail on the Sollies (it seems
  > > accepted that the League is on the edge of civil war, but no real detail
  > > as to WHY). Victor hysterically funny at parts; "Push the button" I
  > > think replaces "Oops" for me as favorite short line in the Honorverse
  > > (more fanatical than the Masadans! Smile).
 >
 > I don't see that there's much question about why, see CoS chapter 12. The
 > SL has been a tinder box for a long time. What's changed is that there is
 > now a core in the Maya Sector and Torch for resistance to OFS to build
 > around; especially with Governor Barregos and Captain Rozsak working
 > together.

It was a fun story. My main problem with it was Princess Ruth, Super
Hacker!

Is Microsoft *still* the main supplier of computer operating systems in
the Honorverse? Surely someone somewhere must have a computer that
can't be hacked into by a kid with a laptop. (Or a missile tech with a
game console.)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:07 pm
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"Don Sample" <dsample.DeleteThis@synapse.net> wrote in message
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 > Is Microsoft *still* the main supplier of computer operating systems in
 > the Honorverse? Surely someone somewhere must have a computer that
 > can't be hacked into by a kid with a laptop. (Or a missile tech with a
 > game console.)

Not exactly...around the time of the discovery of hyper generators,
Microsoft and MacOS combined into a super-company dedicated to producing
over-priced, under-powered, difficult to use, unreliable, and insecure
operating systems by combining the most advertised features of both Windows
OS and MacOS. The operations of the new company, Macrosoft, were moved to a
large asteroid in the asteroid belt, which was then declared an independent
nation. Military operations were launched against rival OS and other
software producers, eventually resulting in the first interstellar war and,
eventually, the Eridani Accords.

To the current day, the Macrosoft copyright protection and technology
acquisition forces are considered some of the most skilled, and feared,
special-operations units in existance; most people avoid mentioning them
because they tend to respond to mentions of their names, the names of
Macrosoft products, or discussions of opposing technologies.

Very Happy

In all seriousness, though, computers in fiction tend to be variably
difficult to hack, depending on what the needs of the story are. As a
computer tech, it sometimes annoys me that some supercomputer-AI can be
hacked by a teenager more easily than my (current) PDA, but at the same time
most people wouldn't want to see something like "After 3 days of feverish
programming, fueled by copious amounts of Bawlz and pizza, so-and-so managed
to create a program to trick such-and-such-computer into allowing him
root/administrative priveledges." Or, as some authors would do, a 3-page
description of what the hacker is doing. O.o

Also, I suspect that most people are rather fooled by how common computers
get hacked...it's not as easy as people tend to think. If there are 2 MS
security problems a week, that's 104 a year, or about 1 virus written per
every 2,000,000 people in the US, or 87,000,000 world residents. There are
a lot of people that want to hack stuff, and most computers (incl. servers)
are run on MS software. That, and stupid people keep not downloading the
updates, and are affected by various viruses like a month after the fix is
published.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:32 am
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:34:08 -0500, Andrew L. wrote:

<snip>

And then there are those who use any MS product, and deserve what happens to
them for using such a lame excuse for an OS.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:10 am
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"Robert Gehrig" <robert.gehrig.DeleteThis@gdbarri.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:34:08 -0500, Andrew L. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> And then there are those who use any MS product, and deserve what happens
to
> them for using such a lame excuse for an OS.
>
Amazing. I didn't even realize we HAD a children's section in this
newsgroup.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:27 pm
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"Kevin Swiger" <kgswiger.DeleteThis@kill.spam.adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> "Robert Gehrig" <robert.gehrig.DeleteThis@gdbarri.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:34:08 -0500, Andrew L. wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > And then there are those who use any MS product, and deserve what
happens
> to
> > them for using such a lame excuse for an OS.
> >
> Amazing. I didn't even realize we HAD a children's section in this
> newsgroup.
>
>
Everybody has parents. That means they're somebody's children.
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