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Since: Aug 13, 2003 Posts: 1110
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:16 pm
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"Mike Bruner" <mbruner.TakeThisOut@udel.edu> wrote in message
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> "Robert Gehrig" <robert.gehrig.TakeThisOut@gdbarri.com> wrote in message
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> > Got it yesterday at B&N in Glendale Az.
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> > Just finished it.
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> > Wow.
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> > It just keeps on getting better and better.
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> > Can hardly wait for the next installment.
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> > I am glad Victor finally found someone.
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> (My apologies if this looks odd; my PC's power supply died and took
> out my motherboard and hard drive, so I'm stuck with Google groups and
> my laptop).
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> Yeah, this one was great stuff; I like all the new characters quite a
> bit. Wish they'd gone a little more into detail on the Sollies (it
> seems accepted that the League is on the edge of civil war, but no
> real detail as to WHY). Victor hysterically funny at parts; "Push the
> button" I think replaces "Oops" for me as favorite short line in the
> Honorverse (more fanatical than the Masadans! ).
>
He has actually noted several problems that could cause a lot of stress.
Economic exploitation often results in a boom as does competition.
> --
> Michael Bruner
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> "Yes, I am a servant of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Crown of Slaves |
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:21 pm
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"Andrew L." <ALL_games RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Don Sample" <dsample RemoveThis @synapse.net> wrote in message
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> > Is Microsoft *still* the main supplier of computer operating systems in
> > the Honorverse? Surely someone somewhere must have a computer that
> > can't be hacked into by a kid with a laptop. (Or a missile tech with a
> > game console.)
>
> Not exactly...around the time of the discovery of hyper generators,
> Microsoft and MacOS combined into a super-company dedicated to producing
> over-priced, under-powered, difficult to use, unreliable, and insecure
> operating systems by combining the most advertised features of both
Windows
> OS and MacOS. The operations of the new company, Macrosoft, were moved to
a
> large asteroid in the asteroid belt, which was then declared an
independent
> nation. Military operations were launched against rival OS and other
> software producers, eventually resulting in the first interstellar war
and,
> eventually, the Eridani Accords.
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> To the current day, the Macrosoft copyright protection and technology
> acquisition forces are considered some of the most skilled, and feared,
> special-operations units in existance; most people avoid mentioning them
> because they tend to respond to mentions of their names, the names of
> Macrosoft products, or discussions of opposing technologies.
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>
> In all seriousness, though, computers in fiction tend to be variably
> difficult to hack, depending on what the needs of the story are. As a
> computer tech, it sometimes annoys me that some supercomputer-AI can be
> hacked by a teenager more easily than my (current) PDA, but at the same
time
> most people wouldn't want to see something like "After 3 days of feverish
> programming, fueled by copious amounts of Bawlz and pizza, so-and-so
managed
> to create a program to trick such-and-such-computer into allowing him
> root/administrative priveledges." Or, as some authors would do, a 3-page
> description of what the hacker is doing. O.o
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> Also, I suspect that most people are rather fooled by how common computers
> get hacked...it's not as easy as people tend to think. If there are 2 MS
> security problems a week, that's 104 a year, or about 1 virus written per
> every 2,000,000 people in the US, or 87,000,000 world residents. There
are
> a lot of people that want to hack stuff, and most computers (incl.
servers)
> are run on MS software. That, and stupid people keep not downloading the
> updates, and are affected by various viruses like a month after the fix is
> published.
>
> Andrew Lannon
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>
The easy way to hack a computer is to get some human to let you have the
data you need to get in. At that point it may not matter how smart the
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:49 pm
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"deowll" <deowll RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Everybody has parents. That means they're somebody's children.
Not necessarily...some people have biological progenitors, but no parents.
 Fine distinction, but...
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Since: Aug 25, 2003 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 11:08 pm
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Andrew L. <ALL_games.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> That, and stupid people keep not downloading the
> updates, and are affected by various viruses like a month after the fix is
> published.
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> Andrew Lannon
I keep being deluged by e-mail claiming to be Windows updates.
I do not use any Microsoft systems or programs, but I keep seeing
'urgent' e-mail with attachments claiming to be updates.
Now suppose I were a stupid Microsoft user who installed every
single update that an e-mail apparently from Microsoft told him
to install.
A lot of Microsoft programs have virus like effects. But apparently
Microsoft pressures anti-Virus software makers so that Microsoft
programs and files don't set off warnings.
A friend of mine assured me that 90% of viruses designed to run on
Microsoft systems were written by disgruntled employees and
ex-employees.
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Since: Jul 03, 2003 Posts: 47
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 11:08 pm
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"Michael Sandy" <wuggadad DeleteThis @cmc.net> wrote in message
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> > That, and stupid people keep not downloading the
> > updates, and are affected by various viruses like a month after the fix
is
> > published.
> >
> > Andrew Lannon
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> I keep being deluged by e-mail claiming to be Windows updates.
> I do not use any Microsoft systems or programs, but I keep seeing
> 'urgent' e-mail with attachments claiming to be updates.
> <snip>
Granted, but there's one key fact to remember:
Every important Microsoft update, plus about 150 unimportant ones, will be
found at Microsoft's update site. This site has a link on people's start
menus, and can even be set to automatically check for update, or just
automatically update, every so often. You will not get an email from
Microsoft saying "Download this to fix your problem", unless you've just
talked to tech support. You'll get an email saying "Go to Windows update
and download X to fix your problem."
MS software, like MacOS, is designed first for people who are utterly
incapable of adequately taking care of their computer on their own, under
the assumption that those of us who neither need nor want their help will
turn off all those "features". Windows2000 and NT less so, but there's
still quite a lot of "wipes your nose and cleans your room" by default.
However, unfortunately, even a company as huge as MS can't stay ahead of the
idiots of the world. And, more unfortunately, increasing numbers of people
today lay claim to technological expertise of which they are totally devoid,
leading to people who neither update their stuff, nor allow someone else to
do it.
(I'd rather deal with a computer idiot who admits it, any day, than a
computer idiot who doesn't. The one who admits it breaks his stuff less
often, and less dramatically, than the other.)
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Since: Sep 20, 2003 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:46 pm
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 22:35:07 -0500, Andrew L. wrote:
> However, unfortunately, even a company as huge as MS can't stay ahead of the
> idiots of the world. And, more unfortunately, increasing numbers of people
> today lay claim to technological expertise of which they are totally devoid,
> leading to people who neither update their stuff, nor allow someone else to
> do it.
>
> (I'd rather deal with a computer idiot who admits it, any day, than a
> computer idiot who doesn't. The one who admits it breaks his stuff less
> often, and less dramatically, than the other.)
I think the main problem is they made computers too easy to use. It used
to be that you had to learn how to use a computer in order to do anything.
Now it's possible to use one knowing absolutely nothing about it. Hardly
suprising that it causes problems.
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Since: Jul 03, 2003 Posts: 47
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:43 am
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"puddin tain" <pt109.TakeThisOut@die.spammers.com> wrote in message
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> I think the main problem is they made computers too easy to use. It used
> to be that you had to learn how to use a computer in order to do anything.
> Now it's possible to use one knowing absolutely nothing about it. Hardly
> suprising that it causes problems.
You have a point. That's one of the great things about Windows2000; I've
yet to find a software package it can't run, and it's got all kinds of
useful user-level groups.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:32 am
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"Andrew L." <ALL_games DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "puddin tain" <pt109 DeleteThis @die.spammers.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.09.18.19.46.41.150388@die.spammers.com...
> > I think the main problem is they made computers too easy to use. It
used
> > to be that you had to learn how to use a computer in order to do
anything.
> > Now it's possible to use one knowing absolutely nothing about it.
Hardly
> > suprising that it causes problems.
>
> You have a point. That's one of the great things about Windows2000; I've
> yet to find a software package it can't run, and it's got all kinds of
> useful user-level groups.
>
> Andrew Lannon
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>
XP has the same advantages (and can run even more software) and has some
great remote access tools besides. I no longer need to use a KVM switch or
runi into the other room to do soemthing that requires console access on my
file server at home. OTOH, I would recommend in a corporate environment that
an image be developed that has some things locked down to the users - it can
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:34 pm
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"Ian Argent" <silvercat.DeleteThis@dreamseeker.org> wrote in message
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> XP has the same advantages (and can run even more software) and has some
> great remote access tools besides. I no longer need to use a KVM switch or
> runi into the other room to do soemthing that requires console access on
my
> file server at home. OTOH, I would recommend in a corporate environment
that
> an image be developed that has some things locked down to the users - it
can
> be a little too open.
Actually, I have yet to run into any software that XP can run, but not 2000,
including games. Win2k also is quite capable of running headless, at least
as much so as XP.  It was designed for corporate environments and
servers...
I like XP, don't get me wrong...but aside from price, it really doesn't seem
to have any particular advantages over 2000. I use it because, as
mentioned, it was much cheaper.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:05 pm
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"Michael A Chase" <mchase DeleteThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:31:52 -0700, Mike Bruner wrote:
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> > Yeah, this one was great stuff; I like all the new characters quite a
> > bit. Wish they'd gone a little more into detail on the Sollies (it seems
> > accepted that the League is on the edge of civil war, but no real detail
> > as to WHY). Victor hysterically funny at parts; "Push the button" I
> > think replaces "Oops" for me as favorite short line in the Honorverse
> > (more fanatical than the Masadans! ).
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> I don't see that there's much question about why, see CoS chapter 12. The
> SL has been a tinder box for a long time. What's changed is that there is
> now a core in the Maya Sector and Torch for resistance to OFS to build
> around; especially with Governor Barregos and Captain Rozsak working
> together.
We'll start getting more into the ins-and-outs of the various political
forces in the Solarian league in the sequel to Crown of Slaves -- which I'll
start writing in about 4-6 weeks. We kept it to a minimum in CoS because we
wanted to produce a book which had as little general infodumping as
possible. Dave is well aware that the last two Honor books are on the
massive side, largely due to a lot of infodumping. He feels that was
necessary for the overall needs of the series, and I agree with him. But
part of the reason he decided to launch this side series --as is true with
his Saganami Island side series -- was so that he could present readers with
a lot of the needed background information in smaller doses in each book.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:55 am
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In article <RridnRLId-JtJBGiU-KYhw.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
"Eric Flint" <eflint.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> We'll start getting more into the ins-and-outs of the various
> political forces in the Solarian league in the sequel to Crown of
> Slaves -- which I'll start writing in about 4-6 weeks.
When will _1634_ come out, and who, if anyone, will be your co-author?
I think that you, Dave, Dave Drake, and Steve White need to be cloned;
you can't write em fast enough for us--or at least for me.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:11 am
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"Michelle Steiner" <michelle.DeleteThis@michelle.org> wrote in message
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> In article <RridnRLId-JtJBGiU-KYhw.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
> "Eric Flint" <eflint.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > We'll start getting more into the ins-and-outs of the various
> > political forces in the Solarian league in the sequel to Crown of
> > Slaves -- which I'll start writing in about 4-6 weeks.
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> When will _1634_ come out, and who, if anyone, will be your co-author?
>
> I think that you, Dave, Dave Drake, and Steve White need to be cloned;
> you can't write em fast enough for us--or at least for me.
Well, it's complicated. There are at least four "1634" volumes -- maybe
five -- all of which are in one way or another parallel sequels to 1633. As
follows:
1634: The Baltic War. This is what you might call the "straight line"
sequel to 1633, in the sense that it will continue the main line of the
story regarding the war with the League of Ostend. Dave Weber is my
co-author on this book, but we won't be able to start writing it for about a
year.
1634: The Galileo Affair. This overlaps with 1633, although most of it
takes place during the same time period that 1634: The Baltic War will
cover. The action takes place in Italy, and the main characters from 1633
are Sharon Nichols, Tom Stone and his sons, and Father Larry Mazzare. This
is a novel of intrigue, basically, not a war story. I'm co-authoring it
with Andrew Dennis, since to some extent the novel is a sequel to his story
"Between the Armies" which is included in the Ring of Fire anthology coming
out in January. We're almost finished writing the Galileo novel and it's
coming out in April.
1634: Bohemia At Bay. (That's just a working title, it'll change once we
get into it.) This novel takes place during the same time period -- roughly
autumn of 1633 through the summer of 1634 -- and it takes place in Bohemia
and the surrounding territory in central Europe. In essence, it's a direct
sequel to my short novel "The Wallenstein Gambit" which is included in the
Ring of Fire anthology. Mike Spehar is my co-author on this book. He's the
person who wrote the flying scenes in 1633 and a large chunk of this novel
will continue the aircraft material which we first introduced in 1633.
1634: The Bavarian Crisis. (Again, that's a working title.) This novel
takes place during the same time period and it's essentially a parallel
novel to the Bohemian book. The action takes place mostly in Bavaria. The
main characters from 1633 are Gretchen Richter's grandmother and Mary
Simpson. Virginia DeMarce is my co-author on this one, because to some
extent the novel is a sequel to her story in Ring of Fire, "Biting Time."
Then, finally, there's the Escape From the Tower novel, which I'll be
writing solo. I'm not sure yet if that will be a "1634" book or a "1635"
book.
Eric
PS. I should mention that sometime within the next week I'll be launching
an online magazine devoted to the 1632 universe, called the Grantville
Gazette. It will be sold as a separate title for $5 through Baen's
Webscriptions. There may only be one issue to this "magazine," depending on
how well the first issue sells. The first issue contain four stories -- one
of them by Virginia -- three factual articles, and a series of images with
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