Danielle Moonstar is AVENGERS:The Initiative

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:22:01 -0800 (PST), Jinx <jinxdv8.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Just picked up Avengers The Initiative #9 and found that Danielle
>Moonstar has made appearances as a supporting cast member. What other
>issus has she been in ? Has she been a significant character in the
>book?

Not really, no...I think she only appeared in one or two other
issues...they brought her in to tutor the kid with the fear-based
powers because they were similar to what hers used to be...I don't
recall the issue number but I want to say it was around issue 5 or 6.

I'd like to see her get some focus since she no longer has any powers
and would likely be discarded otherwise...I just hope she isn't one of
those who are supposed to get killed or maimed during this arc.
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Jinx <jinxdv8 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Just picked up Avengers The Initiative #9 and found that Danielle
> Moonstar has made appearances as a supporting cast member. What other
> issus has she been in ? Has she been a significant character in the
> book?

She's not significant. Don't buy it for her. Apparently she's going to
have a role of some sort in YOUNG X-MEN so you might look for her
there.
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On Feb 10, 5:00 pm, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAM....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jinx <jinx....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote innews:e3f49e14-8e37-44d2-89d1-7de4603820df@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Just picked up Avengers The Initiative #9 and found that Danielle
> > Moonstar has made appearances as a supporting cast member. What other
> > issus has she been in ? Has she been a significant character in the
> > book?
>
> She's not significant. Don't buy it for her. Apparently she's going to
> have a role of some sort in YOUNG X-MEN so you might look for her
> there.

Thanks. It was a pleasant surprise to see Dani there and the
interaction with Thor Girl made buying the issue worthwhile (if for
nothing else).
I would think Dani would have been a natural for The New Warriors book
since it is populated by former Xavier's students who have been
depowered.
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that she abandoned
her foster son (Elixir).
Maybe she'll turn up in the New X-Force since she has connections with
several characters.
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Jinx <jinxdv8.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Feb 10, 5:00 pm, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAM....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jinx <jinx....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote
>> innews:e3f49e14-8e37-44d2-89d1-7de4603820df@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.c
>> om:
>>
>> > Just picked up Avengers The Initiative #9 and found that Danielle
>> > Moonstar has made appearances as a supporting cast member. What
>> > other issus has she been in ? Has she been a significant character
>> > in the book?
>>
>> She's not significant. Don't buy it for her. Apparently she's going
>> to have a role of some sort in YOUNG X-MEN so you might look for her
>> there.
>
> Thanks. It was a pleasant surprise to see Dani there and the
> interaction with Thor Girl made buying the issue worthwhile (if for
> nothing else).
> I would think Dani would have been a natural for The New Warriors book
> since it is populated by former Xavier's students who have been
> depowered.
> I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that she abandoned
> her foster son (Elixir).

She was forced to leave the school. Still, that doesn't mean she lacked
the responsibility for him.

> Maybe she'll turn up in the New X-Force since she has connections with
> several characters.

I doubt it. It's not anything like the original team. Supposedly,
several former members of the original New Mutants will have a continued
presence in Young X-Men. I'm pretty sure Dani's name was mentioned.
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Jinx <jinxdv8.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Thanks. It was a pleasant surprise to see Dani there and the
> interaction with Thor Girl made buying the issue worthwhile (if for
> nothing else).
> I would think Dani would have been a natural for The New Warriors book
> since it is populated by former Xavier's students who have been
> depowered.
> I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that she abandoned
> her foster son (Elixir).

She didn't really abandon Elixer.

In an idiotic New X-Men story moment, Dani was kicked out of the
mansion for being depowered. The idea was that in a misguided
overprotective moment, the X-Men wanted all depowered characters
moved away from the mansion for their own safety. This was the
same reason Emma had the depowered students bussed out, an act
which backfired with their deaths, as leaving the mansion made
them *more* vulnerable to those who wished to do harm.

This was rendered more idiotic when at a similar time in another
title, the X-Men were trying to convince the depowered Polaris to
remain at the mansion.
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Billy Bissette <baines.RemoveThis@coastalnet.com> wrote in
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> Jinx <jinxdv8.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:36160c87-d7af-40d7-b16f-22225f16696c@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that she abandoned
>> her foster son (Elixir).
>
> She didn't really abandon Elixer.
>
> In an idiotic New X-Men story moment, Dani was kicked out of the
> mansion for being depowered. The idea was that in a misguided
> overprotective moment, the X-Men wanted all depowered characters
> moved away from the mansion for their own safety.

Except for Prodigy for some inexplicable reason.

This was the
> same reason Emma had the depowered students bussed out, an act
> which backfired with their deaths, as leaving the mansion made
> them *more* vulnerable to those who wished to do harm.

True. Of course, the anti-ex-mutant bias has never made any sense to
me. These people were now entirely human (except the Rems - a term
coined in X-Factor that refers to ex-mutants with certain
characteristics of their former mutations). Why go after them?

> This was rendered more idiotic when at a similar time in another
> title, the X-Men were trying to convince the depowered Polaris to
> remain at the mansion.

Emma lost an entire team of Hellions and a few members of Generation X.
I think her concerns were understandable.
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Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Billy Bissette <baines.TakeThisOut@coastalnet.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9A44D09097E00whatcholookinat@216.168.3.70:
>
>> Jinx <jinxdv8.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:36160c87-d7af-40d7-b16f-
22225f16696c.TakeThisOut@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that she abandoned
>>> her foster son (Elixir).
>>
>> She didn't really abandon Elixer.
>>
>> In an idiotic New X-Men story moment, Dani was kicked out of the
>> mansion for being depowered. The idea was that in a misguided
>> overprotective moment, the X-Men wanted all depowered characters
>> moved away from the mansion for their own safety.
>
> Except for Prodigy for some inexplicable reason.
>
> This was the
>> same reason Emma had the depowered students bussed out, an act
>> which backfired with their deaths, as leaving the mansion made
>> them *more* vulnerable to those who wished to do harm.
>
> True. Of course, the anti-ex-mutant bias has never made any sense to
> me. These people were now entirely human (except the Rems - a term
> coined in X-Factor that refers to ex-mutants with certain
> characteristics of their former mutations). Why go after them?

I can see two reasons, without even getting too fanatical.

The first is simply that you don't know that they are going to
stay depowered. They were mutants. Then some magical event took
away their powers overnight. Who is to say the powers wouldn't
return in similar fashion? In the meantime, we have these
explosives and over there are a few busloads of potentially
temporary ex-mutants. It isn't even like stalking lone ex-mutants,
it is shooting fish in a barrel.

The second is that it is both a blow against the X-Men and a
threat. The threat is that the moment they leave their Reservation/
Detention Camp, they become vulnerable. The blow is that the X-Men
were trying to protect these kids, but the moment they left the
protection of the grounds, they were slaughtered.

If you get a bit fanatical, you can find more reasons, like
wanting to prevent a few busloads of mutant sympathizers from
being secretly infiltrated into the general population.


Also, wasn't it Stryker's group behind it? They are a bit
nutjob anyway. Plus, Stryker had that whole Nimrod thing going,
so maybe he really *did* have a reason for it

>> This was rendered more idiotic when at a similar time in another
>> title, the X-Men were trying to convince the depowered Polaris to
>> remain at the mansion.
>
> Emma lost an entire team of Hellions and a few members of
> Generation X. I think her concerns were understandable.

I mean evicting Dani while trying to get Polaris to stay. Protecting
the students is one thing, but Dani was one of the teachers.
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> On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:22:01 -0800 (PST), Jinx <jinxdv8 DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>> Just picked up Avengers The Initiative #9 and found that Danielle
>> Moonstar has made appearances as a supporting cast member. What other
>> issus has she been in ? Has she been a significant character in the
>> book?
> Not really, no...I think she only appeared in one or two other
> issues...they brought her in to tutor the kid with the fear-based
> powers because they were similar to what hers used to be...I don't
> recall the issue number but I want to say it was around issue 5 or 6.
> I'd like to see her get some focus since she no longer has any powers
> and would likely be discarded otherwise...I just hope she isn't one of
> those who are supposed to get killed or maimed during this arc.

She's a good fit too though, as she was an agent of shield, I think.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
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Billy Bissette <baines.RemoveThis@coastalnet.com> wrote in
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> Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9A44E778AF4DAMcEwen@130.133.1.4:

>>> This was rendered more idiotic when at a similar time in another
>>> title, the X-Men were trying to convince the depowered Polaris to
>>> remain at the mansion.
>>
>> Emma lost an entire team of Hellions and a few members of
>> Generation X. I think her concerns were understandable.
>
> I mean evicting Dani while trying to get Polaris to stay.
> Protecting
> the students is one thing, but Dani was one of the teachers.

I understood that but was Emma among those seeking to keep Polaris?
What the X-Men want versus what Emma wants aren't necessarily the same
thing.
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"Billy Bissette" <baines.DeleteThis@coastalnet.com> wrote in message
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> Jinx <jinxdv8.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:36160c87-d7af-40d7-b16f-22225f16696c@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Thanks. It was a pleasant surprise to see Dani there and the
> > interaction with Thor Girl made buying the issue worthwhile (if for
> > nothing else).
> > I would think Dani would have been a natural for The New Warriors book
> > since it is populated by former Xavier's students who have been
> > depowered.
> > I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that she abandoned
> > her foster son (Elixir).
>
> She didn't really abandon Elixer.
>
> In an idiotic New X-Men story moment, Dani was kicked out of the
> mansion for being depowered. The idea was that in a misguided
> overprotective moment, the X-Men wanted all depowered characters
> moved away from the mansion for their own safety. This was the
> same reason Emma had the depowered students bussed out, an act
> which backfired with their deaths, as leaving the mansion made
> them *more* vulnerable to those who wished to do harm.
>
> This was rendered more idiotic when at a similar time in another
> title, the X-Men were trying to convince the depowered Polaris to
> remain at the mansion.

It could just about work if the New X-Men stuff happened before the Polaris
stuff. The X-Men tried to send some depowered folk away, they got killed,
so now they want Polaris to stay. Although I have an inkling that the
scenes probably happen in the reverse order.

- Nathan P. Mahney -
http://www.thecomicnerd.com
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On Feb 10, 5:00 pm, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAM... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Jinx <jinx... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote innews:e3f49e14-8e37-44d2-89d1-7de4603820df@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Just picked up Avengers The Initiative #9 and found that Danielle
> > Moonstar has made appearances as a supporting cast member. What other
> > issus has she been in ? Has she been a significant character in the
> > book?
>
> She's not significant. Don't buy it for her. Apparently she's going to
> have a role of some sort in YOUNG X-MEN so you might look for her
> there.

Yup there she is on the cover of Young X-Men#2.
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=8673
Apparently she's gotten some augmentation in her downtime.
I fondly remember the days when she was a skinny angular gal but still
mad sexy.
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