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(Msg. 91) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:50 am
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"Will Dockery" <will.dockery DeleteThis @knology.net> wrote in message news:3bdff$46541c5e$18d62320$30349@KNOLOGY.NET...
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> "Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>>Will Dockery says...
>>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
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>> >>>Whitman is better than Dockery <snip et cetera>
>> >>
>> >>Sure, many poets are better than I am... just as many poets living and
> dead
>> >>are much better than you... even on these newsgroups.
>> >>
>> >>John Berryman, who you copped so many of your ideas, characters and
> concepts
>> >>from, for example, is better than you.
>>
>> Well, let's see.
>> Berryman wrote a sonnet sequence
>
> And you wrote over 400 pieces of garbage (limericks), thus proving my point.
>
> But Berryman is just one of many poets who are/were "better than you."
You never know... Dr. Hammes is still a stud.
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> "Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery-B. Fowler:
> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
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> "Hasty Pudding" by W. Dockery-H. Conley:
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(Msg. 92) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:52 pm
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"Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>Will Dockery says...
>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>
>>>>Whitman is better than Dockery <snip et cetera>
>>>
>>>Sure, many poets are better than I am... just as many poets living and
dead
>>>are much better than you... even on these newsgroups.
>>>
>>>John Berryman, who you copped so many of your ideas, characters and
concepts
>>>from, for example, is better than you.
> >>
> >> Well, let's see.
> >> Berryman wrote a sonnet sequence
> >
> > And you wrote over 400 pieces of garbage (limericks), thus proving my
point.
> >
> > But Berryman is just one of many poets who are/were "better than you."
>
> By whose allegation?
How about $$$ and a bit of "fame"?
Berryman published so at least got paid for his work and is remembered now,
years after his death... Hammes is known, at best, as the writer of 400+
pieces of garbage (limericks).
> Poetry doesn't sell very well these days.
> (discounting song lyrics)
There's poetry shelves at the major bookstores... they must be selling
/something/.
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Will Dockery videos:
Ozone Stigmata- Dockery/Conley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
The Ride (Combat Zone)- Dockery/Beck/Mallard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
Greybeard Cavalier- Dockery/0x0000/Fowler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In.
> (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE,
> Usenet Porn.)
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> > --
> > "Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery-B. Fowler:
> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
> >
> > "Hasty Pudding" by W. Dockery-H. Conley:
> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
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(Msg. 93) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:52 pm
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"Will Dockery" <will.dockery.TakeThisOut@knology.net> wrote in message news:694d9$46547f28$18d62320$30570@KNOLOGY.NET...
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> "Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>>Will Dockery says...
>>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>>
>>>>>Whitman is better than Dockery <snip et cetera>
>>>>
>>>>Sure, many poets are better than I am... just as many poets living and
> dead
>>>>are much better than you... even on these newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>>John Berryman, who you copped so many of your ideas, characters and
> concepts
>>>>from, for example, is better than you.
>> >>
>> >> Well, let's see.
>> >> Berryman wrote a sonnet sequence
>> >
>> > And you wrote over 400 pieces of garbage (limericks), thus proving my
> point.
>> >
>> > But Berryman is just one of many poets who are/were "better than you."
>>
>> By whose allegation?
>
> How about $$$ and a bit of "fame"?
>
> Berryman published so at least got paid for his work and is remembered now,
> years after his death... Hammes is known, at best, as the writer of 400+
> pieces of garbage (limericks).
>
>> Poetry doesn't sell very well these days.
>> (discounting song lyrics)
>
> There's poetry shelves at the major bookstores... they must be selling
> /something/.
>
Peanuts. Ringtones groses billions a year.
Poetry?
> --
> Will Dockery videos:
>
> Ozone Stigmata- Dockery/Conley:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
> The Ride (Combat Zone)- Dockery/Beck/Mallard:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
>
> Greybeard Cavalier- Dockery/0x0000/Fowler:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>
>
>> AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In.
>> (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE,
>> Usenet Porn.)
>>
>> > --
>> > "Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery-B. Fowler:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>> >
>> > "Hasty Pudding" by W. Dockery-H. Conley:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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(Msg. 94) Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:38 am
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Meat Plow wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 03:51:21 -0400, Will Dockery wrote:
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>
>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote
>>
>>>Biljo White wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>He looks like he smells bad. Has anyone here actually met Dockery?
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's like my history/masscomm buddy said in college -- he has a
>>>perfect face for radio.
>>
>>Wtite the guy with /this/ mug:
>
>
>>http://willdockery0.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/docinfinity.jpg
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>
> Wtite, dockery. WTF is Wtite?
>
What Dockery claims to be.
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(Msg. 95) Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:40 am
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Amadeus Jinn wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will.dockery.RemoveThis@knology.net> wrote in message news:3bdff$46541c5e$18d62320$30349@KNOLOGY.NET...
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>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>>
>>>Will Dockery says...
>>>
>>>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Whitman is better than Dockery <snip et cetera>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sure, many poets are better than I am... just as many poets living and
>>
>>dead
>>
>>>>>are much better than you... even on these newsgroups.
>>>>>
>>>>>John Berryman, who you copped so many of your ideas, characters and
>>
>>concepts
>>
>>>>>from, for example, is better than you.
>>>
>>>Well, let's see.
>>> Berryman wrote a sonnet sequence
>>
>>And you wrote over 400 pieces of garbage (limericks), thus proving my point.
>>
>>But Berryman is just one of many poets who are/were "better than you."
>
>
> By whose allegation?
>
> Poetry doesn't sell very well these days.
> (discounting song lyrics)
>
>
That's okay. Dockery can't even sell those.
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(Msg. 96) Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:53 pm
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"Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>Will Dockery says...
>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>
> >>>>>Whitman is better than Dockery <snip et cetera>
> >>>>
> >>>>Sure, many poets are better than I am... just as many poets living and
dead
> >>>>are much better than you... even on these newsgroups.
> >>>>
> >>>>John Berryman, who you copped so many of your ideas, characters and
concepts
> >>>>from, for example, is better than you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, let's see.
> >> >> Berryman wrote a sonnet sequence
> >> >
> >> > And you wrote over 400 pieces of garbage (limericks), thus proving my
> > point.
> >> >
> >> > But Berryman is just one of many poets who are/were "better than
you."
> >>
> >> By whose allegation?
> >
> > How about $$$ and a bit of "fame"?
> >
> > Berryman published so at least got paid for his work and is remembered
now,
> > years after his death... Hammes is known, at best, as the writer of 400+
> > pieces of garbage (limericks).
> >
> >> Poetry doesn't sell very well these days.
> >> (discounting song lyrics)
> >
> > There's poetry shelves at the major bookstores... they must be selling
/something/.
>
> Peanuts. Ringtones groses billions a year.
Well, yeah... so does pizza.
> Poetry?
Maybe a few thousand at best?
--
"Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery-B. Fowler:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
"Hasty Pudding" by W. Dockery-H. Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
> > Will Dockery videos:
> >
> > Ozone Stigmata- Dockery/Conley:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
> >
> > The Ride (Combat Zone)- Dockery/Beck/Mallard:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
> >
> > Greybeard Cavalier- Dockery/0x0000/Fowler:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> >
> >> AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In.
> >> (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE,
> >> Usenet Porn.) >> Stay informed about: Why Dockery? |
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(Msg. 97) Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:06 pm
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(Msg. 98) Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:09 pm
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"Will Dockery" <will.dockery.TakeThisOut@knology.net> wrote in message news:39940$465c8477$18d62320$4287@KNOLOGY.NET...
> "Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>>Will Dockery says...
>>>"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>Whitman is better than Dockery <snip et cetera>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Sure, many poets are better than I am... just as many poets living and
> dead
>> >>>>are much better than you... even on these newsgroups.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>John Berryman, who you copped so many of your ideas, characters and
> concepts
>> >>>>from, for example, is better than you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, let's see.
>> >> >> Berryman wrote a sonnet sequence
>> >> >
>> >> > And you wrote over 400 pieces of garbage (limericks), thus proving my
>> > point.
>> >> >
>> >> > But Berryman is just one of many poets who are/were "better than
> you."
>> >>
>> >> By whose allegation?
>> >
>> > How about $$$ and a bit of "fame"?
>> >
>> > Berryman published so at least got paid for his work and is remembered
> now,
>> > years after his death... Hammes is known, at best, as the writer of 400+
>> > pieces of garbage (limericks).
>> >
>> >> Poetry doesn't sell very well these days.
>> >> (discounting song lyrics)
>> >
>> > There's poetry shelves at the major bookstores... they must be selling
> /something/.
>>
>> Peanuts. Ringtones groses billions a year.
>
> Well, yeah... so does pizza.
>
>> Poetry?
>
> Maybe a few thousand at best?
Hundreds of thousands, probably.
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AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In.
(800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE,
Usenet Porn.)
>
> --
> "Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery-B. Fowler:
> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>
> "Hasty Pudding" by W. Dockery-H. Conley:
> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
>> > Will Dockery videos:
>> >
>> > Ozone Stigmata- Dockery/Conley:
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>> >
>> > The Ride (Combat Zone)- Dockery/Beck/Mallard:
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
>> >
>> > Greybeard Cavalier- Dockery/0x0000/Fowler:
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> >
>> >> AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In.
>> >> (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE,
>> >> Usenet Porn.)
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(Msg. 99) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:34 pm
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"Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
> "Biljo White" wrote:
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> > Where is Shadowville, anyway? A southern hick town or a figment of your
> > booze-addled brain?
>
> Columbus GA.
>
> GA has some nice lakes.
> Here is my movie: (no porn, just some effects)
> http://Movies.Here.Nu/GA-Lakes2.htm
I have some pretty good lake footage on video from the Summer a couple years
ago when a freind of mine, Sulzbach, had an old pontoon boat... not digital
(yet), though.
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"Ozone Stigmata" (the video):
Will Dockery -vocal
Henry Conley -guitar
Brian Fowler -mandolin
Produced and recorded at Echobeast Studios by Brian Fowler, images compiled
by A. Jinn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
"The Ride (Combat Zone)" (the video)
Shadowville All-Stars
Recorded at SoHo
Columbus, GA 31907
Video by Janis Petersen
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(Msg. 100) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:38 pm
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"Will Dockery" <will.dockery DeleteThis @knology.net> wrote in message news:df935$465e09f8$18d62320$18049@KNOLOGY.NET...
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> "Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>> "Biljo White" wrote:
>>
>> > Where is Shadowville, anyway? A southern hick town or a figment of your
>> > booze-addled brain?
>>
>> Columbus GA.
>>
>> GA has some nice lakes.
>> Here is my movie: (no porn, just some effects)
>> http://Movies.Here.Nu/GA-Lakes2.htm
>
> I have some pretty good lake footage on video from the Summer a couple years
> ago when a freind of mine, Sulzbach, had an old pontoon boat... not digital
> (yet), though.
Most pontoon boats are still analog. 
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(800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE,
Usenet Porn.)
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> --
> "Ozone Stigmata" (the video):
> Will Dockery -vocal
> Henry Conley -guitar
> Brian Fowler -mandolin
> Produced and recorded at Echobeast Studios by Brian Fowler, images compiled
> by A. Jinn.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
> "The Ride (Combat Zone)" (the video)
> Shadowville All-Stars
> Recorded at SoHo
> Columbus, GA 31907
> Video by Janis Petersen
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
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(Msg. 101) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:34 pm
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"Reginald Simpson" <RegSimpson.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: Will Dockery wrote:
: > "Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
: >> Biljo White wrote:
: >>
: >>> I publish my work in numerous literary magazines, both print and online,
: >>> under my real name. I'm not about to waste my hard work by posting my
: > stuff
: >>> on-line in an open forum.
: >> Anything posted here is copyrighted; this is a physically time-bound
: >> electronic little magazine, not a chat room.
: >> It (rec.arts.poems) has already got a larger circulation base than
: >> most paper littles, and a longer shelf life than any (save maybe the
: >> contributor's copy, which since 1982 has no more copyright authority
: >> than his original manuscript).
: >>
: >>> I'm here to exchange posts on beat culture and literature.
: >> Well, Dockery is the World's Greatest Authority on beat culture
: >
: > No, but I do know a few things about it and the various characters who lived
: > through it.
: >
:
: I would bet a month's salary with you that the majority of those of us
: that subscribe to the alt.books.beatgeneration newsgroup also "know a
: few things about it and the various characters who (sic) lived through it."
:
: Wouldn't you assume that to be a pretty safe bet, Will?
:
http://www.youtube.com/WDockery
Sounds like Chris Rea, though difficult to understand, and the guitarist sounds
about the same too. Still don't quite know what to make of the guy. I'll get
back to you.
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