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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:08 am
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Dunno if this has been noticed here yet:
http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm

Most americans have stopped reading books anyway, witness bush's poll
numbers.

rms

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:08 am
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rms wrote:
 > Dunno if this has been noticed here yet:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm</font</a>>
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 > Most americans have stopped reading books anyway, witness bush's poll
 > numbers.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:08 am
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Thank you for pointing it out.


Francis A. Miniter


rms wrote:
 > Dunno if this has been noticed here yet:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm</font</a>>
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 > Most americans have stopped reading books anyway, witness bush's poll
 > numbers.
 >
 > rms
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:00 am
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In article <_HI4d.2964$xF5.236@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, "rms"
<rsquires.RemoveThis@flashREMOVE.net> wrote:

 > Dunno if this has been noticed here yet:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm</font</a>>
 >
 > Most americans have stopped reading books anyway, witness bush's poll
 > numbers.
 >
 > rms

Don't despair; despair is what the Republicans want, what they feed on,
and what feeds and supports them:

[please pass on]

         
Put Away Your Hankies
....a Message from Michael Moore


MichaelMoore.com
Monday 20 September 2004

Dear Friends,

       Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to
come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism,
OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching
and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is
embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them
cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"

       Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded.
They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like sharks
that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying.

       They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they
just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself
"Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both
houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the
governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off
considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and
every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day
wreaking havoc on the planet.

       Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after
his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through
Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they
caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the
frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS
NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

       No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a
candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a
lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so
pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you
expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a
helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or
I. People like Kerry run.

       Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass
campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those
phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president
-- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just
gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and
moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not,
they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas
pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac
once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.

       My friends, it is time for a reality check.

       1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On
Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them
both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are
polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently
voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are
voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely
going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not polling people who
use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again, that
means<http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nybres163973220sep16,0,50
25667.column> they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the
polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as
pollster<http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=859> John Zogby
revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of these
polls.

       2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning
Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.

       3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell
ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not
being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is
real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people
scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers --
everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).

       4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11"
(the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we
are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might
have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to
call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire
and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry
meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to
their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush
bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have somewhat
of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won."
All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last
Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that is going
to cook his goose come this November.

       So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people
need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into
your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate
another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a
candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were when
WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like
Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry voted
for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."

       Yes...Yes...Yesssss....He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting
now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...

       WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans
are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that
assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is
wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST
HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO
THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?

       Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our
hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all
you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who
once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that
kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your
teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner
soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so
desperately face. Do we have any other choice?


Yours,
Michael Moore

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