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Since: Dec 27, 2005
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:34 am
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:04:15 -0000, "Robert Blair"
<nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.not> wrote:
>> > I have never seen a politician that could think past his/her next
>> > election let alone the next decade.
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>> Al Gore seems to be thinking about global warming several decades hence.
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>Only because he thinks it will get him elected. If it was not such a
>current hot topic he would completely ignore it.
Politicians that expect to be elected work for the short term. Al
Gore wants to be an elder statesman, being listened to now that he's
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:42 am
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Tim Bruening wrote:
> rja.carnegie RemoveThis @excite.com wrote:
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> > Robert Blair wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:19:24 UTC, Tim Bruening
> > > <tsbrueni RemoveThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > I have heard many politicians express opposition to wasting taxpayer money on
> > > > > > space when there are so many problems at home to solve. Few politicians can see
> > > > > > a decade into the future, let alone 12.5 million years!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have never seen a politician that could think past his/her next
> > > > > election let alone the next decade.
> > > >
> > > > Al Gore seems to be thinking about global warming several decades hence.
> > >
> > > Only because he thinks it will get him elected.
> >
> > Elected to what?
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> President.
No. He will never be President. He lost the election in 2000.
Perhaps I'm misreading you. Is English not your first language, or am
I thinking of Tina Hall? (Of course, I can never be sure you /aren't/
Tina Hall.)
What I mean is that perhaps you're arguing he campaigned on climate
change (not "global warming") in 2000 as an election ploy. But that
was six years ago. When we use present tense, we can't be talking
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:17 am
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:34:42 UTC, wdstarr.RemoveThis@panix.com (William December
Starr) wrote:
> And your evidence to support this claim is...
Watching all the politicians do their two-step during the current (and
past) silly season.
> oh, hell, why am I even asking?
I don't have a clue
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Robert Blair >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:48 am
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 06:17:47 -0000, "Robert Blair"
<nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.not> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:34:42 UTC, wdstarr DeleteThis @panix.com (William December
>Starr) wrote:
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>> And your evidence to support this claim is...
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>Watching all the politicians do their two-step during the current (and
>past) silly season.
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Gore has been ringing environmental alarm bells for a very, very long
time. And considering it's one of the things that lost him the
Presidential election, I doubt he does it to get elected. >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:45 pm
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rja.carnegie.RemoveThis@excite.com wrote:
> Tim Bruening wrote:
> > rja.carnegie.RemoveThis@excite.com wrote:
> >
> > > Robert Blair wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:19:24 UTC, Tim Bruening
> > > > <tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > I have heard many politicians express opposition to wasting taxpayer money on
> > > > > > > space when there are so many problems at home to solve. Few politicians can see
> > > > > > > a decade into the future, let alone 12.5 million years!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never seen a politician that could think past his/her next
> > > > > > election let alone the next decade.
> > > > >
> > > > > Al Gore seems to be thinking about global warming several decades hence.
> > > >
> > > > Only because he thinks it will get him elected.
> > >
> > > Elected to what?
> >
> > President.
>
> No. He will never be President. He lost the election in 2000.
Nixon lost in 1960, then won in 1968. >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:35 pm
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At the end of the End of Eternity, Noys Lambent and Andrew Harlan erase
Eternity from the timeline by deciding not to rescue Cooper from the
20th century. However, they are protected from the Reality Change by a
physiotime field.
If any Eternity personnel were in Reality at the time of the Noys/Andrew
Change, and were protected by physiotime fields, would they have been
protected from the Change also? If so, how would they have coped with
the sudden shift to a mostly radioactive Earth? >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:22 am
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:35:27 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni RemoveThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>At the end of the End of Eternity, Noys Lambent and Andrew Harlan erase
>Eternity from the timeline by deciding not to rescue Cooper from the
>20th century. However, they are protected from the Reality Change by a
>physiotime field.
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>If any Eternity personnel were in Reality at the time of the Noys/Andrew
>Change, and were protected by physiotime fields, would they have been
>protected from the Change also? If so, how would they have coped with
>the sudden shift to a mostly radioactive Earth?
I'm guessing they would have died. >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:42 pm
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Tim Bruening wrote:
> rja.carnegie DeleteThis @excite.com wrote:
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> > Tim Bruening wrote:
> > > rja.carnegie DeleteThis @excite.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Robert Blair wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:19:24 UTC, Tim Bruening
> > > > > <tsbrueni DeleteThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have heard many politicians express opposition to wasting taxpayer money on
> > > > > > > > space when there are so many problems at home to solve. Few politicians can see
> > > > > > > > a decade into the future, let alone 12.5 million years!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have never seen a politician that could think past his/her next
> > > > > > > election let alone the next decade.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Al Gore seems to be thinking about global warming several decades hence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only because he thinks it will get him elected.
> > > >
> > > > Elected to what?
> > >
> > > President.
> >
> > No. He will never be President. He lost the election in 2000.
>
> Nixon lost in 1960, then won in 1968.
And didn't that turn out well. Anyway, Nixon was a crook. Gore is an
intellectual. America forgives people being dishonest, but not being
too clever. >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:24 am
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At the end of the End of Eternity, Noys Lambent and Andrew Harlan erase
Eternity from the timeline by deciding not to rescue Cooper from the
20th century. However, they are protected from the Reality Change by a
physiotime field.
If any Eternity personnel were in Reality at the time of the Noys/Andrew
Change, and were protected by physiotime fields, would they have been
protected from the Change also? If so, how would those who were in time
periods preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity cope
with the change in their surroundings? >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:06 am
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David Johnston wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:35:27 -0700, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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> >At the end of the End of Eternity, Noys Lambent and Andrew Harlan erase
> >Eternity from the timeline by deciding not to rescue Cooper from the
> >20th century. However, they are protected from the Reality Change by a
> >physiotime field.
> >
> >If any Eternity personnel were in Reality at the time of the Noys/Andrew
> >Change, and were protected by physiotime fields, would they have been
> >protected from the Change also? If so, how would they have coped with
> >the sudden shift to a mostly radioactive Earth?
>
> I'm guessing they would have died.
Now consider the fate of any Eternity personnel who were in time periods
preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity, and therefore
wouldn't die of radiation poisoning. How would they cope with the change in
their surroundings? >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:25 am
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:06:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni.TakeThisOut@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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>David Johnston wrote:
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>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:35:27 -0700, Tim Bruening
>> <tsbrueni.TakeThisOut@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>> >At the end of the End of Eternity, Noys Lambent and Andrew Harlan erase
>> >Eternity from the timeline by deciding not to rescue Cooper from the
>> >20th century. However, they are protected from the Reality Change by a
>> >physiotime field.
>> >
>> >If any Eternity personnel were in Reality at the time of the Noys/Andrew
>> >Change, and were protected by physiotime fields, would they have been
>> >protected from the Change also? If so, how would they have coped with
>> >the sudden shift to a mostly radioactive Earth?
>>
>> I'm guessing they would have died.
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>Now consider the fate of any Eternity personnel who were in time periods
>preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity, and therefore
>wouldn't die of radiation poisoning. How would they cope with the change in
>their surroundings?
They'd find themselves a girl and settle down, live a simple life in a
quiet town. >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:25 am
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"David Johnston" <rgorman.DeleteThis@block.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:06:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni.DeleteThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>Now consider the fate of any Eternity personnel who were in time periods
>>preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity, and therefore
>>wouldn't die of radiation poisoning. How would they cope with the change
>>in
>>their surroundings?
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> They'd find themselves a girl and settle down, live a simple life in a
> quiet town.
Mightn't some try to marshal the resources of their timeline in order to
rebuild Eternity? >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:18 am
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Henry wrote:
> "David Johnston" <rgorman.DeleteThis@block.net> wrote in message
> news:pdonf2pjnfhpu06ps1vpm143r549tcromo@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:06:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
> > <tsbrueni.DeleteThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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> >>Now consider the fate of any Eternity personnel who were in time periods
> >>preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity, and therefore
> >>wouldn't die of radiation poisoning. How would they cope with the change
> >>in
> >>their surroundings?
> >
> > They'd find themselves a girl and settle down, live a simple life in a
> > quiet town.
>
> Mightn't some try to marshal the resources of their timeline in order to
> rebuild Eternity?
I love this idea! >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:10 am
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:18:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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>Henry wrote:
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>> "David Johnston" <rgorman.RemoveThis@block.net> wrote in message
>> news:pdonf2pjnfhpu06ps1vpm143r549tcromo@4ax.com...
>> > On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:06:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
>> > <tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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>> >>Now consider the fate of any Eternity personnel who were in time periods
>> >>preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity, and therefore
>> >>wouldn't die of radiation poisoning. How would they cope with the change
>> >>in
>> >>their surroundings?
>> >
>> > They'd find themselves a girl and settle down, live a simple life in a
>> > quiet town.
>>
>> Mightn't some try to marshal the resources of their timeline in order to
>> rebuild Eternity?
>
>I love this idea!
Since the guys who would be out in real time have no idea how to make
the technology, that wouldn't work. >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:11 pm
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David Johnston wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:18:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni.DeleteThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >Henry wrote:
> >
> >> "David Johnston" <rgorman.DeleteThis@block.net> wrote in message
> >> news:pdonf2pjnfhpu06ps1vpm143r549tcromo@4ax.com...
> >> > On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:06:41 -0700, Tim Bruening
> >> > <tsbrueni.DeleteThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>Now consider the fate of any Eternity personnel who were in time periods
> >> >>preceding the massive increase in Earth's radioactivity, and therefore
> >> >>wouldn't die of radiation poisoning. How would they cope with the change
> >> >>in
> >> >>their surroundings?
> >> >
> >> > They'd find themselves a girl and settle down, live a simple life in a
> >> > quiet town.
> >>
> >> Mightn't some try to marshal the resources of their timeline in order to
> >> rebuild Eternity?
> >
> >I love this idea!
>
> Since the guys who would be out in real time have no idea how to make
> the technology, that wouldn't work.
How do you know that an expert in Temporal technology might not have been slumming
in Reality at the physiotime Harlan destroyed it? >> Stay informed about: The End of Eternity |
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