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Since: Jul 03, 2008 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:15 am
Post subject: Good Jumping On Points? Archived from groups: rec>arts>comics>marvel>xbooks (more info?)
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Hi, all - returning to comics after a long absence and slowly but
surely finding my way back - I have heard a lot of good things about
Ed Brubaker, but haven't read him extensively - I see that he's
currently writing Uncanny - what's a good jumping on point for this
series? I figured I might give it a try as an ongoing starting with
500 - is Brubaker to continue as writer, though? How have his efforts
been on this series? Worth backing up and getting some back issues and/
or TPBs?
When I left the X-Men, I was down to only one x-title, Astonishing X-
Men, which was just coming out at the time. I liked the series - it
looks like it's been slow coming out though, since I notice the
current issue on the stand is only in the 20s? And also - I understand
Whedon is leaving soon?
What's the flagship x-title currently? The best x-title, the ones to
be avoided? I'm hoping it's still possible to read x-titles more-or-
less independently, without the need to read everything on the market
for continous cross over type stories. When I last read on a regular
basis, it seemed to be trending towards story arcs that were largely
self contained within their own, individual series. Also, any good
jumping on points for recommended series would be greatly
appreciated.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:04 pm
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markeharrison.DeleteThis@msn.com wrote in news:57e5a0b0-1269-4b8e-8212-6790a1eb1394
@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> Hi, all - returning to comics after a long absence and slowly but
> surely finding my way back - I have heard a lot of good things about
> Ed Brubaker, but haven't read him extensively - I see that he's
> currently writing Uncanny - what's a good jumping on point for this
> series? I figured I might give it a try as an ongoing starting with
> 500 - is Brubaker to continue as writer, though? How have his efforts
> been on this series? Worth backing up and getting some back issues and/
> or TPBs?
>
> When I left the X-Men, I was down to only one x-title, Astonishing X-
> Men, which was just coming out at the time. I liked the series - it
> looks like it's been slow coming out though, since I notice the
> current issue on the stand is only in the 20s? And also - I understand
> Whedon is leaving soon?
Whedon's final regular issue was #24; Warren Ellis is onboard for the
forseeable future.
> What's the flagship x-title currently? The best x-title, the ones to
> be avoided? I'm hoping it's still possible to read x-titles more-or-
> less independently, without the need to read everything on the market
> for continous cross over type stories. When I last read on a regular
> basis, it seemed to be trending towards story arcs that were largely
> self contained within their own, individual series. Also, any good
> jumping on points for recommended series would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance for replies and advice.
>
All the X-titles either are now or are about to begin establishing new
settings going forward, so right now is as good a time as any to jump on
any of the mainstream ongoings.
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Since: Sep 18, 2006 Posts: 184
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:10 am
Post subject: Re: Good Jumping On Points? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:15:30 -0700 (PDT), markeharrison.TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
>Hi, all - returning to comics after a long absence and slowly but
>surely finding my way back - I have heard a lot of good things about
>Ed Brubaker, but haven't read him extensively - I see that he's
>currently writing Uncanny - what's a good jumping on point for this
>series? I figured I might give it a try as an ongoing starting with
>500 - is Brubaker to continue as writer, though? How have his efforts
>been on this series? Worth backing up and getting some back issues and/
>or TPBs?
Uncanny #500 is the start of the new direction for the X-Men so it's
probably a good jumping-on point...although I really liked the
storyline that preceded it which was kind of a throwaway that takes
place during a time when the X-Men have temporarily broken up...I
believe it started in #495. Brubaker got off to kind of a rough start
on Uncanny but it's gotten pretty good and he will be staying on as
writer but will also be getting Matt Fraction as a co-writer (they've
been working on Iron Fist together)...I'm looking forward to it.
>
>When I left the X-Men, I was down to only one x-title, Astonishing X-
>Men, which was just coming out at the time. I liked the series - it
>looks like it's been slow coming out though, since I notice the
>current issue on the stand is only in the 20s? And also - I understand
>Whedon is leaving soon?
Whedon's run is now finished and, begining with #25 (which came out
yesterday), Warren Ellis is taking over...I have the issue but I
haven't read it yet so I can't really comment other than to say it
probably is a good jumping-on point fo new readers...but I just don't
know if it's a good story yet.
>
>What's the flagship x-title currently? The best x-title, the ones to
>be avoided? I'm hoping it's still possible to read x-titles more-or-
>less independently, without the need to read everything on the market
>for continous cross over type stories. When I last read on a regular
>basis, it seemed to be trending towards story arcs that were largely
>self contained within their own, individual series. Also, any good
>jumping on points for recommended series would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance for replies and advice.
I'm not sure if Astonishing or Uncanny is the flagship now...as for
the best, I vote for Uncanny...X-Men: Legacy isn't bad (I do like Mike
Carey on the X-men but I've never been all that interested in Prof. X
so a series that revolves around him doesn't really jump out at me)
and his Free Comic Day X-Men one-shot was pretty good if you can find
it...Peter David's X-Factor series has been great since the beginning
but it seems to be slipping a little with recent issues...X-Force is
good if you just like to see Wolverine and similar x-characters kill
everything in sight...X-Men First Class is a fun out-of-continuity
book that features some of my favorite X-Men (a nice break from the
doom and gloom of the regular X-Men books)...and Young X-Men is
thoroughly mediocre (in writing and art)...I really liked the New
X-Men book it replaced but, so far, they only good things about this
series have been a few Terry Dodson covers...they're also doing a
series of X-Men: Origins one-shots featuring different
characters...the Colossus book was the first to come out and it wasn't
bad...Jean Grey is next in line so we'll see how it goes. >> Stay informed about: Good Jumping On Points? |
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Since: Mar 08, 2004 Posts: 347
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Good Jumping On Points? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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grinningdemon <grinningdemon.TakeThisOut@austin.rr.com> wrote in
news:86br64pta45no683su11o5knqai4l0lerf@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:15:30 -0700 (PDT), markeharrison.TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
>>What's the flagship x-title currently?
> I'm not sure if Astonishing or Uncanny is the flagship now...
I'd argue that there hasn't really been a flagship since Morrison
left New X-Men. Astonishing was *supposed* to be the new flagship
under Whedon, but effectively lived in its own slow-paced world as
everything happened around it. Uncanny eventually took the spot by
default, and not really on any particular merits. It just happened
to be the only core book that (eventually) acted like a core book.
Astonishing's new writer might revive its intended position, or
it might now always run in Uncanny's wake. It looks like Uncanny is
going to get the more flagship-style stories.
> as for
> the best, I vote for Uncanny...X-Men: Legacy isn't bad (I do like Mike
> Carey on the X-men but I've never been all that interested in Prof. X
> so a series that revolves around him doesn't really jump out at me)
> and his Free Comic Day X-Men one-shot was pretty good if you can find
> it...
X-Men: Legacy seems to exist primarily for people who want to read
about bits of things that happened in previous X-Men books.
> X-Force is
> good if you just like to see Wolverine and similar x-characters kill
> everything in sight...
X-Force is one of worst X-Men books in years, if not decades. The
best issue so far was the one that didn't really have any X-Men in it,
and consisted of the bad guys digging up the corpses of various
(sometimes obscure) deceased villains.
But it is popular because it has Wolverine and similar X-characters
killing everything in sight. If you completely disengage your brain,
and like that kind of thing, then you might be a fan of this book.
> and Young X-Men is
> thoroughly mediocre (in writing and art)...
While I thought X-Force was the worst book in years, I still read
more issues of it than I did Young X-Men. So mediocre and
unappealing that I'd rather read a *worse* book than read it.
Unmentioned in the previous post is Genextix, or whatever. It
isn't a current continuity book though. Rather, it is Claremont
writing another generation of X-Men in a fictional timeline set
after X-Men: The End. It seems fairly standard Claremont, and
didn't have much appeal to me after reading the first issue out
of sheer curiosity. >> Stay informed about: Good Jumping On Points? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:26 pm
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Thanks, all. I loved Astonishing when it first debuted - has any
reason been given for why the issues were released so slowly? It did
seem to have promise - I think I'll give Uncanny a shot starting with
500. I just bought a Brubaker penned TPB today (Death of Captain
America) and was thoroughly impressed with the writing. I've liked
most of Peter David's stuff, so I might give his title a try, also.
Sounds like the bulk of the other stuff is best avoided - with the
possible exception of the First Class stuff. I have picked up a few
issues of Wolverine: First Class and found it to be a fun, light read.
X-Force doesn't sound like it would interest me - how is the regular,
Wolverine solo title holding up these days? >> Stay informed about: Good Jumping On Points? |
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Since: Sep 18, 2006 Posts: 184
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:50 am
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:25:14 -0500, Billy Bissette
<baines DeleteThis @coastalnet.com> wrote:
>grinningdemon <grinningdemon DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
>news:86br64pta45no683su11o5knqai4l0lerf@4ax.com:
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:15:30 -0700 (PDT), markeharrison DeleteThis @msn.com wrote:
>
>>>What's the flagship x-title currently?
>
>> I'm not sure if Astonishing or Uncanny is the flagship now...
>
> I'd argue that there hasn't really been a flagship since Morrison
>left New X-Men. Astonishing was *supposed* to be the new flagship
>under Whedon, but effectively lived in its own slow-paced world as
>everything happened around it. Uncanny eventually took the spot by
>default, and not really on any particular merits. It just happened
>to be the only core book that (eventually) acted like a core book.
I'd say Astonishing WAS the flagship through the first half of
Whedon's run...the second half is where things really started lagging.
>
> Astonishing's new writer might revive its intended position, or
>it might now always run in Uncanny's wake. It looks like Uncanny is
>going to get the more flagship-style stories.
If Ellis's first issue of Astonishing is any indication, I don't
expect too much out of the book...and it doesn't help that I don't
like Simone Bianchi's art at all.
>
>> as for
>> the best, I vote for Uncanny...X-Men: Legacy isn't bad (I do like Mike
>> Carey on the X-men but I've never been all that interested in Prof. X
>> so a series that revolves around him doesn't really jump out at me)
>> and his Free Comic Day X-Men one-shot was pretty good if you can find
>> it...
>
> X-Men: Legacy seems to exist primarily for people who want to read
>about bits of things that happened in previous X-Men books.
True...and that's by far the most enjoyable aspect of the book.
>
>> X-Force is
>> good if you just like to see Wolverine and similar x-characters kill
>> everything in sight...
>
> X-Force is one of worst X-Men books in years, if not decades. The
>best issue so far was the one that didn't really have any X-Men in it,
>and consisted of the bad guys digging up the corpses of various
>(sometimes obscure) deceased villains.
>
> But it is popular because it has Wolverine and similar X-characters
>killing everything in sight. If you completely disengage your brain,
>and like that kind of thing, then you might be a fan of this book.
That was my point.
>
>> and Young X-Men is
>> thoroughly mediocre (in writing and art)...
>
> While I thought X-Force was the worst book in years, I still read
>more issues of it than I did Young X-Men. So mediocre and
>unappealing that I'd rather read a *worse* book than read it.
True...at least there are significant events happening in
X-Force...Young X-men has nothing going for it all.
>
>
> Unmentioned in the previous post is Genextix, or whatever. It
>isn't a current continuity book though. Rather, it is Claremont
>writing another generation of X-Men in a fictional timeline set
>after X-Men: The End. It seems fairly standard Claremont, and
>didn't have much appeal to me after reading the first issue out
>of sheer curiosity.
I didn't think any book associated with X-Men: The End was worth
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:00 pm
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markeharrison.TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote in news:9b78024a-274d-48c1-8b8a-
97e375ec7fff.TakeThisOut@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> X-Force doesn't sound like it would interest me - how is the regular,
> Wolverine solo title holding up these days?
I'm not sure how the Wolverine solo is these days. It got pretty
bad a while back, and I don't know anyone that reads it anymore. >> Stay informed about: Good Jumping On Points? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:10 am
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"Billy Bissette" <baines RemoveThis @coastalnet.com> wrote in message
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> markeharrison RemoveThis @msn.com wrote in news:9b78024a-274d-48c1-8b8a-
> 97e375ec7fff RemoveThis @x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> X-Force doesn't sound like it would interest me - how is the regular,
>> Wolverine solo title holding up these days?
>
> I'm not sure how the Wolverine solo is these days. It got pretty
> bad a while back, and I don't know anyone that reads it anymore.
>
It's not really a title, rather a compendium of unrelated Wolverine stories
by different writers. The days of Claremont-tastic continuity are long gone.
D. >> Stay informed about: Good Jumping On Points? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:15 pm
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"grinningdemon" <grinningdemon RemoveThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> If Ellis's first issue of Astonishing is any indication, I don't
> expect too much out of the book...and it doesn't help that I don't
> like Simone Bianchi's art at all.
I've loved Bianchi's covers, but I don't think it functions as well for the
entire comic. It looks very dense and muddy. >> Stay informed about: Good Jumping On Points? |
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