Hardy Boys FE $9100 and climbing on eBay!

On 2008-01-10, RF <fwdixon.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 10:55 am, RF <fwdi....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> A rare possible FE of the Hardy Bots "While The Clock Ticked" is
>> setting a record on ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220189682055
>
> Up to (gasp) $10,000.00 with 4 days to go!

The opinion on the eBay Booksellers Board is this
could well be shill bidders.

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On Jan 10, 12:06 am, Jonathan Grobe <gr....DeleteThis@netins.net> wrote:
> On 2008-01-10, RF <fwdi....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 9, 10:55 am, RF <fwdi....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> A rare possible FE of the Hardy Bots "While The Clock Ticked" is
> >> setting a record on ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220189682055
>
> > Up to (gasp) $10,000.00 with 4 days to go!
>
> The opinion on the eBay Booksellers Board is this
> could well be shill bidders.

Seeing the low feedback #'s for most of the bidders I agree that could
be a possibility.
Nevertheless, FE's of that title have brought close to 5 figures in
the past.
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look at all that shill bidding activity...LOL
an accurate representation of value I am sure
"chuckle"

"RF" <fwdixon DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> A rare possible FE of the Hardy Bots "While The Clock Ticked" is
> setting a record on ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220189682055
 >> Stay informed about: Hardy Boys FE $9100 and climbing on eBay! 

it isn't even worth a fraction of that amount in the condition depicted

<Seeing the low feedback #'s for most of the bidders I agree that could
be a possibility.
Nevertheless, FE's of that title have brought close to 5 figures in
the past.
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On Jan 10, 9:01 pm, "Dave Fielding" <civil....DeleteThis@loring.org> wrote:
> it isn't even worth a fraction of that amount in the condition depicted

Well of course it's worth "a fraction" of that amount, a small to
middlin fraction perhaps, but a fraction nonetheless.
There seems to be a bit of discrepancy about the state of the jacket -
perhaps a 2nd state - which detracts from the value, as does its
condition.
Nevertheless the book as presented is worth a low 4 figure amount, IMO.
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On Jan 10, 8:03 pm, "Kris Baker" <kris.ba... RemoveThis @prodigy.net> wrote:
> "Jonathan Grobe" <gr... RemoveThis @netins.net> wrote in message
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> > On 2008-01-10, RF <fwdi... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 9, 10:55 am, RF <fwdi... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> A rare possible FE of the Hardy Bots "While The Clock Ticked" is
> >>> setting a record on
> >>> ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220189682055
>
> >> Up to (gasp) $10,000.00 with 4 days to go!
>
> > The opinion on the eBay Booksellers Board is this
> > could well be shill bidders.
>
> The two fighting it out (the ones with 21 and 71 feedback) have
> *eached* placed high percentages of their bids (34% and 43%)
> on this seller's items.

Would appear to be a classic shill set up, based on the facts you
presented.
Too bad as the seller could easily have gotten a decent price for it
without the shills.
A nice copy of the same title/edition sold for over $7000 a few years
back and I'm fairly sure that auction was legit.
A true FE of "While The Clock Ticked" is the most highly sought
edition among Hardy Boys fans (or should I say speculators?)
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"Jonathan Grobe" <grobe RemoveThis @netins.net> wrote in message
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> On 2008-01-10, RF <fwdixon RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 9, 10:55 am, RF <fwdi... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> A rare possible FE of the Hardy Bots "While The Clock Ticked" is
>>> setting a record on
>>> ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220189682055
>>
>> Up to (gasp) $10,000.00 with 4 days to go!
>
> The opinion on the eBay Booksellers Board is this
> could well be shill bidders.


The two fighting it out (the ones with 21 and 71 feedback) have
*eached* placed high percentages of their bids (34% and 43%)
on this seller's items.

All you have to do, is click on the clocked ID to see their bid
history:
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=220189682055
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It's getting to the point where you can't even troll Finnan into an outburst
anymore. This is no fun at all....I'm leaving.

<Well of course it's worth "a fraction" of that amount, a small to
middlin fraction perhaps, but a fraction nonetheless.
There seems to be a bit of discrepancy about the state of the jacket -
perhaps a 2nd state - which detracts from the value, as does its
condition.
Nevertheless the book as presented is worth a low 4 figure amount, IMO.
 >> Stay informed about: Hardy Boys FE $9100 and climbing on eBay! 

On Jan 10, 8:03 pm, "Kris Baker" <kris.ba....TakeThisOut@prodigy.net> wrote:
> "Jonathan Grobe" <gr....TakeThisOut@netins.net> wrote in message
>
> news:slrnfob9va.trv.grobe@worf.netins.net...
>
> > On 2008-01-10, RF <fwdi....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 9, 10:55 am, RF <fwdi....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> A rare possible FE of the Hardy Bots "While The Clock Ticked" is
> >>> setting a record on
> >>> ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220189682055
>
> >> Up to (gasp) $10,000.00 with 4 days to go!
>
> > The opinion on the eBay Booksellers Board is this
> > could well be shill bidders.
>
> The two fighting it out (the ones with 21 and 71 feedback) have
> *eached* placed high percentages of their bids (34% and 43%)
> on this seller's items.
>
> All you have to do, is click on the clocked ID to see their bid
> history:http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=220189682055

Looks like a legitimate bidder has come along (feedback=459) with a
bid of $10,100.00!
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On Jan 12, 2:35 pm, RF <fwdi....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Looks like a legitimate bidder has come along (feedback=459) with a
> bid of $10,100.00!

Wouldn't the jacket being a 2nd print knock the value down
considerably?

What might a true 1st/1st book/jacket be worth in comparison? 20%
more? 100% more?


Carl
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On Jan 14, 3:09 pm, C....DeleteThis@carlritner.com wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2:35 pm, RF <fwdi....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like a legitimate bidder has come along (feedback=459) with a
> > bid of $10,100.00!
>
> Wouldn't the jacket being a 2nd print knock the value down
> considerably?
>
> What might a true 1st/1st book/jacket be worth in comparison? 20%
> more? 100% more?

Frankly I think the book sold wildly over its value and the auction
may have been tainted by possible shill bidding.
Since no publisher information exists as to what is actually a first
state DJ and we have only the speculation (no matter how well
informed) of a couple of researchers (Hefflefinger and Carpentieri/
Mular), it is difficult to make any accurate comparisons.
Ultimately I guess a book is worth what someone is willing to pay for
it.
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On Jan 14, 5:26 pm, RF <fwdi....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 14, 3:09 pm, C....DeleteThis@carlritner.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 12, 2:35 pm, RF <fwdi....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Looks like a legitimate bidder has come along (feedback=459) with a
> > > bid of $10,100.00!
>
> > Wouldn't the jacket being a 2nd print knock the value down
> > considerably?
>
> > What might a true 1st/1st book/jacket be worth in comparison? 20%
> > more? 100% more?
>
> Frankly I think the book sold wildly over its value and the auction
> may have been tainted by possible shill bidding.
> Since no publisher information exists as to what is actually a first
> state DJ and we have only the speculation (no matter how well
> informed) of a couple of researchers (Hefflefinger and Carpentieri/
> Mular), it is difficult to make any accurate comparisons.

Well, there exists jackets like this, with fewer X-Bar X Boys titles
on the back, and fewer Tom Swift titles on the reverse. That's fairly
demonstrative that this is not a 1st jacket, and the seller appears to
agree. That doesn't necessarily make a 2nd jacket worth more or less,
just newer.

> Ultimately I guess a book is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

True, with books, cars, houses and pretty much everything else.

Carl
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On Jan 14, 8:55 pm, C....TakeThisOut@carlritner.com wrote:

> Well, there exists jackets like this, with fewer X-Bar X Boys titles
> on the back, and fewer Tom Swift titles on the reverse. That's fairly
> demonstrative that this is not a 1st jacket, and the seller appears to
> agree.  That doesn't necessarily make a 2nd jacket worth more or less,
> just newer.

The way that the books were assembled make it possible for a second
state DJ to be on a 1st state book.
If the bindery had some 1st state books left over after the initial
order was filled, they would have been saved.
When the next order came in they could be mated with 2nd state DJs and
used to fill the order.
Similarly a 2nd state book could easily have been mated with a 1st
state DJ.
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