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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:54 pm
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From yesterday's (Sunday, 6/29) _Washington Post_ comes an article
describing a conference on the subject of Harry Potter. The conference
title is "Ninbus-2003: A Harry Potter Symposium".
Among the papers to be presented:
Philip Nel (Kansas State University assistant professor of English): What
Makes a Professor Behave Like Snape?: Literature, Marketing, and the
Critical Backlash against Harry Potter"
Sudha Shastri of the Indian Institute of Technology in Bombay: "Platform
9-3/4 and Sundry Barriers: Ontological Displacements in the Harry
Potter Series"
Connie Neal, author of "The Gospel According to Harry Potter" will
discuss related topics (exact titles not given) including "how to
handle people who insist Harry is 'of the devil' in a friendly way."
The reporter adds a note that "[o]ne strategy, adopted by Nimbus-2003,
seems to be not inviting them to your conference: No panels will
feature theological attacks on Satanic elements of the Potter series."
University of Wisconsin PhD candidate Laurie Barth Walczak will offer
"Sexuality, Protest, Elves and White Womanhood: Hermione and S.P.E.W".
A related paper (author not identified) is "But That's the Title on
the Manifesto!: Labor and Class Concerns in Harry Potter".
From Cantor Amy Miller: "What's a nice Jewish boy like Harry Potter
doing in a place like this?"
There's more, but you get the idea. The meeting is next month in
Orlando; didn't I see someone who wanted an excuse to go to Disney
World?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 10:59 pm
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Joe Morris scribbled:
> From yesterday's (Sunday, 6/29) _Washington Post_ comes an article
> describing a conference on the subject of Harry Potter. The conference
> title is "Ninbus-2003: A Harry Potter Symposium".
> Among the papers to be presented:
> Philip Nel (Kansas State University assistant professor of English): What
> Makes a Professor Behave Like Snape?: Literature, Marketing, and the
> Critical Backlash against Harry Potter"
> Sudha Shastri of the Indian Institute of Technology in Bombay: "Platform
> 9-3/4 and Sundry Barriers: Ontological Displacements in the Harry
> Potter Series"
<snip>
> There's more, but you get the idea. The meeting is next month in
> Orlando; didn't I see someone who wanted an excuse to go to Disney
> World?
Are they serious?
Those professors aren't going to be able to charge those
travel expenses as business expenses... are they?
(If so... gosh, I feel cheated. I have to sweat to get
funds to travel to conferences with papers presented on
thrilling topics like "tracking join and self-join
sizes in limited storage". And they're not in Orlando,
FL!)
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:07 am
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>(If so... gosh, I feel cheated. I have to sweat to get
>funds to travel to conferences with papers presented on
>thrilling topics like "tracking join and self-join
>sizes in limited storage". And they're not in Orlando,
>FL!)
>
>Megan
FWIW, my husband goes to conferences in Orlando every other year.
They have a HUGE (did I say "huge"? I meant **H**U**G**E** - they can
park a couple jumbo jets inside this place) conference center. His
airfare, rental car, meals, and hotel are covered as business
expenses. 'Course it helps that he's a theatre professional and going
to the local tourist attractions is considered a fact finding trip.
He doesn't get to go by himself.
The Bookwurm (going again this November)
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:30 am
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Rhino 7 scribbled:
>>(If so... gosh, I feel cheated. I have to sweat to get
>>funds to travel to conferences with papers presented on
>>thrilling topics like "tracking join and self-join
>>sizes in limited storage". And they're not in Orlando,
>>FL!)
>>
>>Megan
> FWIW, my husband goes to conferences in Orlando every other year.
> They have a HUGE (did I say "huge"? I meant **H**U**G**E** - they can
> park a couple jumbo jets inside this place) conference center. His
> airfare, rental car, meals, and hotel are covered as business
> expenses. 'Course it helps that he's a theatre professional and going
> to the local tourist attractions is considered a fact finding trip.
<sigh> "Big" groups always get the fun destinations. (Fun
to visit, maybe not so to live.) Little groups wind up at
smaller spots because ... I'm not certain why. Cheaper,
perhaps, for smaller groups. Or just more convenient for
someone with influence.
> He doesn't get to go by himself.
I should say not! :>
Megan
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:36 am
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"Rhino 7" <laney2.TakeThisOut@comfishcast.net> wrote in message
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> >(If so... gosh, I feel cheated. I have to sweat to get
> >funds to travel to conferences with papers presented on
> >thrilling topics like "tracking join and self-join
> >sizes in limited storage". And they're not in Orlando,
> >FL!)
> >
> >Megan
>
> FWIW, my husband goes to conferences in Orlando every other year.
> They have a HUGE (did I say "huge"? I meant **H**U**G**E** - they can
> park a couple jumbo jets inside this place) conference center. His
> airfare, rental car, meals, and hotel are covered as business
> expenses. 'Course it helps that he's a theatre professional and going
> to the local tourist attractions is considered a fact finding trip.
>
> He doesn't get to go by himself.
>
> The Bookwurm (going again this November)
Hmmm... maybe we'll have to try to get together NEXT november (2004) cause
that's when I FINALLY get to go to WDW.
jeran
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:41 pm
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mct.RemoveThis@no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu writes:
><sigh> "Big" groups always get the fun destinations. (Fun
>to visit, maybe not so to live.) Little groups wind up at
>smaller spots because ... I'm not certain why. Cheaper,
>perhaps, for smaller groups. Or just more convenient for
>someone with influence.
....and depending on the group, they may wind up in what are normally
popular places, but at unpopular times of year. When I was my employer's
representative to SHARE (the IBM mainframe user group, founded in
the early 1950s) we would go to places like Orlando or New Orleans
or Chicago in *August* because the prices were lower. Since many of
the members were universities, nonprofits, and govm't agencies, they
had miniscule travel budgets plus the problem of politics.
(SHARE never did go to Las Vegas. The business-oriented IBM mainframe
user group GUIDE did go there one year...and all the managers sent
themselves rather than the worker bees.)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:57 pm
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mct DeleteThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu writes:
>Joe Morris scribbled:
>> From yesterday's (Sunday, 6/29) _Washington Post_ comes an article
>> describing a conference on the subject of Harry Potter. The conference
>> title is "Ninbus-2003: A Harry Potter Symposium".
>Are they serious?
I *think* so. I'll admit that the same question occurred to me.
>Those professors aren't going to be able to charge those
>travel expenses as business expenses... are they?
One problem -- rather over-employed by the late Senator Proxmire in
his "Golden Fleece" awards several years ago -- is that silly-sounding
titles can (but don't always!) hide legitimate work in either reports
or the organization itself. One organization I belong to, for example,
has a group titled "Committee on Stationary Boilers" which sounds odd
unless you know that the committee's charter is to write safety
standards for stationary boilers.
But no, I'm not at all sure just how useful any of the papers at
Nimbus-2003 will be.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:05 pm
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Joe Morris scribbled:
> mct.DeleteThis@no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu writes:
>><sigh> "Big" groups always get the fun destinations. (Fun
>>to visit, maybe not so to live.) Little groups wind up at
>>smaller spots because ... I'm not certain why. Cheaper,
>>perhaps, for smaller groups. Or just more convenient for
>>someone with influence.
> ...and depending on the group, they may wind up in what are normally
> popular places, but at unpopular times of year. When I was my employer's
> representative to SHARE (the IBM mainframe user group, founded in
> the early 1950s) we would go to places like Orlando or New Orleans
> or Chicago in *August* because the prices were lower. Since many of
> the members were universities, nonprofits, and govm't agencies, they
> had miniscule travel budgets plus the problem of politics.
Yep. That's me.
> (SHARE never did go to Las Vegas. The business-oriented IBM mainframe
> user group GUIDE did go there one year...and all the managers sent
> themselves rather than the worker bees.)
I'm still trying to figure out how the theoreticians
(applied mathematicians, basically) managed to swing a conference
in Vegas one year. Am told they were there at the same time
as a lingerie fashion show, which proved distracting for the
grad students. :>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:09 pm
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Joe Morris scribbled:
> mct.TakeThisOut@no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu writes:
>>Joe Morris scribbled:
>>> From yesterday's (Sunday, 6/29) _Washington Post_ comes an article
>>> describing a conference on the subject of Harry Potter. The conference
>>> title is "Ninbus-2003: A Harry Potter Symposium".
>>Are they serious?
> I *think* so. I'll admit that the same question occurred to me.
>>Those professors aren't going to be able to charge those
>>travel expenses as business expenses... are they?
> One problem -- rather over-employed by the late Senator Proxmire in
> his "Golden Fleece" awards several years ago -- is that silly-sounding
> titles can (but don't always!) hide legitimate work in either reports
> or the organization itself. One organization I belong to, for example,
<snip>
Oh, yes. But one can usually detect the "legit work with silly
title" by looking at the other titles in the conference proceedings.
If most are serious and just a couple are funny, then the
authors of the funny ones were just a little punchy when they
picked their titles... (And probably weren't grad students,
since advisors tend to stop that sort of nonsense. Darn it.)
<g>
> But no, I'm not at all sure just how useful any of the papers at
> Nimbus-2003 will be.
:>
Megan
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:12 am
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>> The Bookwurm (going again this November)
>
>Hmmm... maybe we'll have to try to get together NEXT november (2004) cause
>that's when I FINALLY get to go to WDW.
Darlin' we're members of Disney Vacation Club. We're there quite a
bit. <g>
>jeran
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>no one should wait 35 years to visit WDW
My Mom didn't get to Disney**land** until I was 14, which makes her
56. She spent the whole drive down trying to lower my expectations.
The whole way back we sung "Yo Ho Yo Ho A Pirate's Life For Me". <BG>
Needless to say, she was entranced. I was hooked for life. And Dad?
Well he put up with us, so that's not too bad.
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"Rhino 7" <laney2.RemoveThis@comfishcast.net> wrote in message
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> >> The Bookwurm (going again this November)
> >
> >Hmmm... maybe we'll have to try to get together NEXT november (2004)
cause
> >that's when I FINALLY get to go to WDW.
>
> Darlin' we're members of Disney Vacation Club. We're there quite a
> bit. <g>
>
> >jeran
> >
> >no one should wait 35 years to visit WDW
>
> My Mom didn't get to Disney**land** until I was 14, which makes her
> 56. She spent the whole drive down trying to lower my expectations.
> The whole way back we sung "Yo Ho Yo Ho A Pirate's Life For Me". <BG>
>
> Needless to say, she was entranced. I was hooked for life. And Dad?
> Well he put up with us, so that's not too bad.
>
> The Bookwurm
Now see I'm the other way, so I'm constantly at my parks... d'land and DCA.
Unfortunately I don't get to go this weekend as my parents called it first.
I get to stay home and take care of the cat (15) and grandfather (85) who
are both about the same age... but hey, it's fun 
jeran
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:12 am
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:41:50 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris
<jcmorris.DeleteThis@mitre.org> wrote:
>(SHARE never did go to Las Vegas. The business-oriented IBM mainframe
>user group GUIDE did go there one year...and all the managers sent
>themselves rather than the worker bees.)
>
>Joe Morris
<snicker>The American Physics Society held a big meeting there once.
Legend has it that the local newspaper ran a story "6000 physicists in
town, worse week in Casino history"
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John Oliver <jdoliver RemoveThis @aspire.com.au> writes:
>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:41:50 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris wrote:
>>(SHARE never did go to Las Vegas. The business-oriented IBM mainframe
>>user group GUIDE did go there one year...and all the managers sent
>>themselves rather than the worker bees.)
><snicker>The American Physics Society held a big meeting there once.
>Legend has it that the local newspaper ran a story "6000 physicists in
>town, worse week in Casino history"
Um...lesseenow. IIRC it was back in the mid-'60s when the Spring Joint
Computer Conference (given the culture of the time, an appropriate name)
got some extra publicity for its Las Vegas location: _Datamation_ magazine
(then a much less stodgy publication than it later became) published
an article entitled "CRAPS: Computer Renumeration Application Programming
System" (I may have the exact words wrong). The program was a flowchart
for playing blackjack.
And when SHARE met at Disneyland (with the Disneyland Hotel as the
headquarters) we were all wondering whether the management understood
the danger of having 4500 system programmers in a park run by
computers...
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 4:49 am
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>Now see I'm the other way, so I'm constantly at my parks... d'land and DCA.
>Unfortunately I don't get to go this weekend as my parents called it first.
>I get to stay home and take care of the cat (15) and grandfather (85) who
>are both about the same age... but hey, it's fun
>
>jeran
Well we won't be going until the 17th & 18th either. I have friends
that grew up going to the park every weekend because they lived close
by. They're the ones who had a Micky & Minnie wedding. <g>
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In a land and time much like our own, laney2 DeleteThis @comfishcast.net
(Rhino 7) awoke and said:
>>Now see I'm the other way, so I'm constantly at my parks... d'land and DCA.
>>Unfortunately I don't get to go this weekend as my parents called it first.
>>I get to stay home and take care of the cat (15) and grandfather (85) who
>>are both about the same age... but hey, it's fun
>>
>>jeran
>
>Well we won't be going until the 17th & 18th either. I have friends
>that grew up going to the park every weekend because they lived close
>by. They're the ones who had a Micky & Minnie wedding. <g>
>
>The Bookwurm (not a fanatic, just a fan)
I'm going to throw a major pouting fit here!
I've yet to make it to DL. Not even when I was spending a week
or so a month in Corona. 
It's only a 6 hour drive. I MUST do something about this.
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Leah was ugly, Joseph was abused, Moses was a murderer, Gideon was afraid, Samson had
long hair, Rahab was a prostitute, Timothy was too young, David had an illicit affair,
Elijah was suicidal, Isaiah preached naked, Job was bankrupt, John the Baptist ran around
in a loin cloth, Peter was hot-tempered, John was self-righteous.
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