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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:37 am
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=68974

The following is a lie. Smile

I was lucky enough to get invited to a secret test screening of Harry
Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part I at the AMC River East in
Chicago this afternoon. We weren't told what movie we would be seeing
until seconds before it started, but my friends and I suspected that
it may be Harry Potter due to the Warner Bros signs and the intense
security. When producer David Heyman walked in, I was pretty sure what
it would be. Director David Yates was also in attendance, and spent
some time talking with fans outside the theatre after the film.

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part I is a great continuation
of the series, thematically and visually in line with films 5 and 6.
Though it is a fast-paced film, with several nice setpieces and
much-improved performances from the young cast, it does suffer from
two major problems. First, it faithfully adapts the seventh book,
including the book's own problems. The "camping in the wilderness"
scenes become quite repetitive, and the attempts at drama/angst
amongst the trio during these scenes comes off as tired. Also, the
scenes involving the locket horcrux causing its wearer to be
angry/aggressive are far too reminiscent of Lord of the Rings. All
three young stars acquit themselves admirably, however, doing the best
they can with the material. Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe, in
particular, are quite good. The second problem with the film, and this
may be fixed by the time the final cut is released, is the editing.
Some scenes feel utterly rushed and incoherent (Godric's Hollow, for
example). Others go on for far too long (Ron becomes jealous, etc.).
There are several flashes / dream sequences that demonstrate
Voldemort's search for the Elder Wand. These are bizarrely edited and
poorly executed. Luckily, they are just a small fraction of the film.

Despite these issues, this was a quality film on par with films 5 and
6, both of which I quite enjoyed. As with those films, the
cinematography is beautiful. There are several creative and dramatic
shots throughout the film, so that even if one gets bored, you could
just stare in awe at the scenery. The beginning of the film is also
quite exciting, including some hilarious scenes with multiple
"Harry"s, and a series of great action sequences. The visual effects
were not completely finished in these sequences, but I imagine it was
quite close to what the final version will be. Another effective
sequence involves the trio escaping to a small cafe in London, and a
resulting fight that involves wands and spells but feels more like a
shootout.

The film ends at a very appropriate spot, and though not exactly a
"cliffhanger", left me greatly anticipating Part II.

At the end of the film, we all filled out lengthy questionnaires
regarding our opinion of the film overall (I gave it 4/5), as well as
our likes/dislikes with the performances, scenes, and other aspects.

Though I will reserve final judgement until after seeing Part II, this
is overall an effective and exciting, if not perfect, continuation of
the series that struggles with some of the same problems as the final
book, but mostly overcomes them through excellent technical aspects
and performances.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:39 am
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:32:51 -0400, Alric Knebel's Rack wrote:

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With an unparalleled amount of excitement and anticipation building
around the release of the seventh and final Harry Potter novel, could
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows possibly live up to the hype?
This question, probably best left to the millions of diehard Harry
Potter fans worldwide to decide, would seem to be a resounding "yes."
Deathly Hallows features everything readers have come to expect from
the Harry Potter series: heart-pounding action, narrow escapes, and
plenty of edge-of-your-seat excitement.
Never a Shortage of Tension

While many readers thought the last installment of the series, Harry
Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, was a nail-biting read, Deathly
Hallows brings tension to a new level. Harry and his friends face
death and narrow escapes at nearly every turn. Such critical
situations allow the characters to learn a great deal not only about
magic, but also about themselves. Past books in the series have often
featured one epic battle to close the story, but Deathly Hallow
features such adventures throughout, guaranteeing that the action
never becomes dull and readers never feel bored despite the 700+ page
length.
Questions Answered

Leading up the release of Deathly Hallows, fans had a long list of
questions they hoped would be answered in the series finale. It is
safe to say that J. K. Rowling satisfies most curiosities. However,
answering questions was not the only strong point in the Deathly
Hallows. Indeed, an intriguing new tale, that of the Legend of the
Deathly Hallows, was also woven into the story, alongside the
characters' search for the seven Horcruxes, which began at the
conclusion of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.
Surprising Secrets Finally Revealed

The most surprising¡Xand welcome¡Xelement of the book is the way it
enlightens readers on the personal history of two of the series' most
pivotal characters: Albus Dumbledore and Severus Snape. Through
Rowling's portrayals of the two characters, we see that our
assumptions, even if they are built upon six previous books, aren't
always correct, and evil, as well as good, can be found inside just
about every character. Deathly Hallows serves as a fitting end to one
of the world's most popular literary series. Harry Potter is destined
to join the ranks of the most beloved fictional characters of all
time, and he will live on as future generations continue to discover
the series and enjoy it as so many millions already have.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:43 am
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:32:51 -0400, Alric Knebel's Rack wrote:

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Goodbye, Harry Potter
Does J.K. Rowling's final installment, "Harry Potter and the Deathly
Hallows," provide the magical ending to the beloved series her readers
so desperately long for?
By Laura Miller

*

This review discusses plot developments in the new Harry Potter novel.
If you don't want to know anything about the story, please don't read
it.

Ask someone what the Harry Potter series is about, and they'll
probably answer, "a boy wizard." But in mulling over J.K. Rowling's
innovative melding of children's fantasy fiction with old-fashioned
boarding school stories, I've concluded that the boarding school
element has the edge. Much as we may love Harry, Hermione, Ron, Hagrid
and Dumbledore, don't we all love Hogwarts just a little bit more?
(Or, let me put it this way: Given the choice between meeting any one
of Rowling's characters and getting to attend the celebrated school of
witchcraft and wizardry, which do you think most readers would pick?)
So brace yourselves, fans: Hardly any of the latest and last book in
the series, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," takes place at the
school.

Whatever the troubles lurking in the richly imagined wizardry world
outside its walls, Hogwarts has always been a sanctum for the forces
of decency, presided over by headmaster Albus Dumbledore. But, with
Dumbledore's death at the end of "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood
Prince," Hogwarts can obviously never be the same, and Harry has to be
spirited off into hiding by the remaining members of the Order of the
Phoenix. The influence of the diabolical Lord Voldemort has grown,
infiltrating the press and finally the Ministry of Magic itself. A
Nazi-like racialist campaign to "register" and control Muggle-born and
"blood traitor" wizards burgeons. Harry, Hermione (a Muggle born) and
Ron never get to climb aboard the Hogwarts Express for their seventh
and final term.

Of course, the idea that boarding school offers shelter from the rough
injustices of the real world is a delusion enjoyed only by people who
have never attended one. British writers as diverse as C.S. Lewis and
George Orwell have tried to disabuse the general public of its bizarre
affection for such institutions and the genre of children's fiction
set in them. Lewis was fond of saying that "school stories" fostered
fantasies far more pernicious than any fairy tale because they
actually tricked children into believing that boarding school offered
something more than "raw and sordid ugliness." The writer Neil Gaiman
has called Rowling's depiction of boarding school a "weird and
idealized" vision of something that's "really all about bullying,
torture and [in deference to any children who might be reading this,
let's just say that the last word he mentioned refers to an activity
usually practiced alone]."

Nevertheless, in the Harry Potter universe, Hogwarts has been the last
holdout of the good and true, and by exiling Harry, Hermione and Ron
from its grounds, Rowling is forcing her narrative to grow up. Harry
has that experience so common to people who've just lost a parent (or,
in this case, a parent figure): discovering that the Dumbledore he
thought he knew so well had a past he never suspected, one that
doesn't fit with the memories he cherishes. The protection spell that
his mother cast over the Dursleys' house on Privet Drive expires when
he turns 17, and he's got to leave it and them forever; much as he
hated the place, he's cast doubly adrift.

Harry and his friends are thrust into a perilous society where the
brutality of real-world boarding schools prevails. The omnipresent
dread, the held breath at the closing noose of fascism, familiar from
so many World War II stories, hovers over the whole book. Much of "The
Deathly Hallows" reads like a thriller, beginning with a breathless
broomstick chase in the fourth chapter. After a brief, amusing pause
for a wizard wedding (no less exhausting than the Muggle kind), it
evolves into an extended chase, with Harry and his comrades falling
into the clutches of Voldemort's Death Eaters only to escape by the
skin of their teeth at least a half dozen times.

These action scenes are expertly executed, and if Rowling really does
decide to write more fiction set in Harry's world, she could probably
do worse than inventing a wizard detective or spy as her next hero.
Unlike those of some great children's authors (Kenneth Grahame, Lewis
or E. Nesbit, for three), her prose style has never been especially
graceful or beautiful (one Salon reader really hit the nail on the
head by calling her writing "sturdy"), but it's perfectly suited to
this kind of scene, and her control over the whole novel feels much
firmer and tighter than it did in the preceding two volumes, "Order of
the Phoenix" and "Half-Blood Prince." She does have to resort once
more to the Pensieve (a sort of magical VCR for other people's
memories) to handle some heavily expository flashbacks toward the
book's conclusion, but by then you're so caught up in the narrative
you don't mind.

As for the ending, and the strange, widespread and literarily autistic
obsession with who does and doesn't die in it, suffice to say that
some sympathetic characters are killed and that everything -- the
configuration of the horcruxes, the true colors of Severus Snape, the
final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort -- turns out in the
only way it possibly could if you thought about it for more than two
seconds. But that doesn't detract from the cumulative power of
Rowling's storytelling, because a real story, as anyone with half a
soul knows, is much more than a series of plot points. Even though (as
a grown-up) I did occasionally weary of Rowling's rudimentary romantic
comedy and love-conquers-all moral -- and even though I found myself
conscientiously ticking off her borrowings from a host of other
fantasy classics -- I was still genuinely moved at the end. (Which, by
the way, had already been spoiled for me.)

But far be it from me to ruin the book for anyone whose enjoyment of
it can be so ruined. This is all I have to say to those readers who
have yet to finish "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows": Click on
the link below only if you want to read a discussion of the series
that includes information up to and including the very last page of
the very last Harry Potter novel.

Rowling's gift has always been for boisterous, jolly ensemble scenes
and for cooking up zany and prankish magical creatures, spells and
devices -- there's as much Fred and George Weasley in her as there is
Hermione Granger. From Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans to the gnomes
in the Weasleys' garden to the Whomping Willow, the texture and color
of her imaginary world is earthy (but not lusty), homely, grounded,
irreverent, antic, perfectly suited to the audience of 10-year-olds
she first devised it for 10 years ago. Her voice, tone and imagination
are rooted in social comedy and observation, not in the metaphysical
and transcendent, which is why her more realistic bad guys -- the
loathsome Dolores Umbridge, who makes a most-welcome cameo appearance
in "Deathly Hallows" -- are more vigorous and chilling than her
supreme antagonist, Voldemort. Umbridge is a bureaucrat, a petty
tyrant and semi-closeted sadist allowed to run amok in a wizarding
world gone wrong. We've all met people just like her, even if they
don't come equipped with enchanted torture pens. Voldemort, by
contrast, is a melodrama villain, a device. Sauron, he ain't.

Some critics have objected to an Op-Ed the British novelist A.S. Byatt
wrote for the New York Times in 2003, in which she complained that
Rowling's books lack the "shiver of awe" she expects from superior
fantasy. But you don't have to dismiss Harry Potter the way Byatt does
to recognize that she has a point. The sublime is missing from
Rowling's series, but then you won't find it in "Barchester Towers" or
"A Confederacy of Dunces," either, which doesn't make them anything
less than masterly novels. The sublime and the comic don't mix well,
and to try to squeeze both into a children's book is the kind of
experiment even a master potion-concocter like Severus Snape would
wisely avoid.

Nevertheless, for the final, climactic confrontation in a seven-volume
series that has become a cultural phenomenon, people expect something
epic, momentous, archetypal. So it's no surprise that the closer
Rowling gets to that confrontation, the more heavily she relies on
borrowings from writers with a natural gift for that sort of thing:
Tolkien, Lewis, even Philip Pullman. The locket horcrux that weighs
down whoever wears it, sapping their initiative and hope, is one of
the more obvious quotes from "The Lord of the Rings," along with the
thunderous last-minute arrival of centaur troops at the Battle of
Hogwarts (the Ride of Rohan redux). Above all, reading the emotional
turning point of the "The Deathly Hallows" -- Harry's solemn walk to
the Death Eaters' camp, his willing surrender to Voldemort and the
taunting, capering glee of the evil wizard and his minions -- induces
(in me, at least) an LSD-grade flashback to the sacrifice scene in
"The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe."

None of this is meant as a detraction -- the writers Rowling borrows
from in turn gleaned parts of their fiction from even older works. The
fantasy genre at its best draws from stories older than written
language itself; originality isn't really the point. You could even
say that Lewis and Tolkien didn't write novels at all (they called
their fiction "fairy tales" or "romance," citing much earlier literary
forms). Myth, archetype, allegory -- all of these are literary modes
in which characters, places and objects often stand not for anything
in the real world, but for elements of the human psyche, parts of the
self. That "shiver of awe" Byatt wrote about happens when you feel the
boundaries between the inner and outer worlds dissolve, if only for a
moment. Given that this isn't the register that Rowling usually works
in, it's impressive how well she pulls it off when she has to.

But Rowling is most definitely a novelist; she writes about people and
stuff, not about elemental forces and unconscious urges. Like all true
novelists, she is the champion of the specific and the domestic, the
often unsung pleasures and perils of a good lunch, a crush, a ball
game with friends and a little gossip about machinations at the
ministry -- which is why the doings at Hogwarts and in the Weasley
household were always the best parts of the series. Her books, for all
their spells and incantations and magical creatures, have never been
the stuff that dreams are made of. Instead, they're the stuff that
life is made of.

That's why Harry's great reward isn't something otherworldly, like
Frodo Baggins sailing into immortality with the elves in the Uttermost
West. He gets married, settles down with a good woman and has a few
kids. His fate is to make many return visits to platform nine and
three-quarters, even if he never again boards the Hogwarts Express. He
gets to feel that twinge, that "little bereavement" that every parent
feels on his child's first day of school; time passing, life going on.
It's a very ordinary, unheroic sort of feeling, and that, more even
than the assurance of the book's final sentence, tells us that all
really is well.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:38 am
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:32:51 -0400, Alric Knebel's Rack wrote:

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CAUTION: THE VIEWS BELOW MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!!

From /Film reader Kyle:

"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part I is a great
continuation of the series, thematically and visually in line with
films 5 and 6. Though it is a fast-paced film, with several nice set
pieces and much-improved performances from the young cast, it does
suffer from two major problems. First, it faithfully adapts the
seventh book, including the book¡¦s own problems. The ¡§camping in the
wilderness¡¨ scenes become quite repetitive, and the attempts at
drama/angst amongst the trio during these scenes comes off as tired.
Also, the scenes involving the locket horcrux causing its wearer to be
angry/aggressive are far too reminiscent of Lord of the Rings."

From MuggleNet reader Gaby:

"This film felt very perfect. I don¡¦t remember feeling this
satisfied with a Harry Potter movie since Chamber of Secrets. By this,
I mean that the experience of seeing this movie almost exactly
mirrored my experience reading the book all those three years ago¡K I
cannot wait to see this movie again. It¡¦s going to be spectacular and
even more perfect. To believe that this is just Part 1 is crazy. To
just imagine Part 2 is too much because if it is like anything like
this (which it probably is), it will be even more perfect.

From MuggleNet reader Kyle:

"First off, this is the most perfect Harry Potter film ever. The
movie on a whole is amazing and dark. Everyone was on top of their
game. Everything was perfect. Dobby¡¦s death was done perfectly. You
could see the emotion in Harry and the gang. We saw green screens of
course (because the film¡¦s digital effects were not yet complete), but
it didn¡¦t affect me at all. The audience LOVED Dobby. Everyone was
clapping when we saw him."
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:32 pm
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:39:47 -0400, Sky Rider
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>On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:32:51 -0400, Alric Knebel's Rack wrote:

Ahh... if only that had been me not another cut'n paste from the
troll.

Sadly I'm not that erudite.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:32 pm
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:32:40 +1100, Sky Rider wrote:

> Ahh... if only that had been me not another cut'n paste from the
> troll.

Can we expect that you're obsession with this "troll" to end sooner
than later? Considering there has been a plethora of things to comment
on, and your troll obsession has seemingly taken all of your time away
from those threads...

> Sadly I'm not that erudite.

There's a surprise. *NOT*

YOU are an idiot clicking your heels together and wishing something
were true. And a liar who would rather play kiddy games than face
facts.

Your posts are indistinguishable from the self centered prattle of
dozens of pimple faced egotists, unable to admit to being wrong,
unable to take part in a free exchange of ideas, seeking to
substitute "humor" and jokes with an in-crowd of one for "insight".

The only thing any one knows of you, is what you say on the internet.
You determine exactly what image you present to the world.

Enjoy yourself.
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In the end, I have to say there¢s something truly disconcerting about
living in a world where not having read a single Harry Potter book
makes ME the weird one. :wideeyed:
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