Hedgehog

Duke of URL wrote:
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>> Daibhid Ceannaideach wrote:
>>>> From: "Duke of URL" macbenahATkdsiDOTnet
>>>> "mjdart" <mjdart DeleteThis @nospamallowedhere.au> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Duke of URL wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> several of the creatures Eurystheus sent Heracles after). I have no
>>> idea why the Spiny Anteater was named after her.
>>
>> PMS
>
> Oh dear. You do know you're going to be in a LOT of trouble, don't
> you?



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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:29 +0000, David Harcombe
<David.Harcombe.DeleteThis@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>How can anyone not have seen a hedgehog?

Quite easily.

> Are you Merkin? Do they not have them there?

Not outside of zoos, and not in Canada either (except for a very few
imported African ones kept as pets, so I've read).

>I hope they do - my wife'll be most upset when we get to Canananananada
>if so, since she's looking forward to being able to put bread & milk out
>for the hedgehogs in the back garden!

No offense, but that's a singularly stupid idea, especially if you're
someplace rural. Giving wild animals the idea that people are good
sources of food has gotten many people and more animals in danger,
sometimes of the life-threatening sort. You may only be planning to
feed something cute and harmless, but that doesn't mean *only* cute
and harmless creatures will start hanging around your property.

Bear in mind that we have a lot more wildlife than you're used to, and
much of it comes with claws and teeth.

-Maaike
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On 18 Nov 2003 22:06:17 GMT, daibhidchenedelh.RemoveThis@aol.com (Daibhid
Ceannaideach) wrote:


>It just occured to me that that classic song of the joys of the open road in
>America, "Dead Skunk", contains the lines:
>
>Well, you've got your dead cat and you've got your dead dog,
>On a moonlit night you've got your dead hedgehog,
>
>So *somebody* in the US of A's seen them...

Funny, I always thought that line was
"On a moonlit night you've got your dead toad-frog".

Thread-drift alert: Now we're going to have to find out which line is
which

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Jeff C
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In message <7l2lrvcoguklds1feduof5eg6poqq8rph6.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Heidrun
Kirchweger <kirchkuebel.TakeThisOut@gmx.at> writes
>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:55:06 -0000, "Steveski"
><steveski7SPAMbeGONE.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Good eating on one o' them . . .
>
>BTW, why are they called "hedgehog" anyway? I don't find much
>hedgehogs have in common with a hog.

The noise they make. As a previous poster said, they can make an
extraordinary amount of noise for their size, and is generally quite
similar to the sort of snuffling noise a pig makes while feeding (not
the full-voiced "oink"), And they either live in, or are often found in,
hedges.

Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
Americans).

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"Alec Cawley" <alec.TakeThisOut@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
> Americans).

You can NOT be serious!
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:55:06 -0000, "Steveski"
<steveski7SPAMbeGONE RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Good eating on one o' them . . .

BTW, why are they called "hedgehog" anyway? I don't find much
hedgehogs have in common with a hog.

--
Frage an Radio Eriwan: Kann ein Troll schwimmen?

Antwort: Im Prinzip ja, er ist ja hohl. Trotzdem wird er
untergehen, weil er nicht ganz dicht ist.
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David Cameron Staples wrote:
> In Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:34:26 -0600, "Duke of URL"
> <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> in hoc locus scripsit:
>
>> BTW, apologies - I just noticed I forgot to tag this.
>>
>> "Daibhid Ceannaideach" <daibhidchenedelh.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20031117201339.01998.00000424@mb-m27.aol.com
>>>> From: "Duke of URL" macbenahATkdsiDOTnet "mjdart"
>>>> <mjdart.TakeThisOut@nospamallowedhere.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:bpbjts$1ovf$1@otis.netspace.net.au
>>>>> Well...no hedgehogs in XXXX...although we have echidnas, which
>>>>> seem to be similar but bigger. And lay eggs (of all
>>>>> things...<g>)
>>>>
>>>> Eggs??? You mean like hard-shelled ovoids??? <...>
> Soft shelled, but yes.
>>>
>>> Member of the same family, the egg-laying mammals, or
>>> Metronomes[1]. There's more stuff about 'em, and pictures, here:

The "metronome" bit is from a Dave Barry piece. Maybe other places, too, but
definitely Dave Barry.

Stacie
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Duke of URL wrote:
> "Alec Cawley" <alec RemoveThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>
>> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
>> Americans).
>
> You can NOT be serious!

*****

Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road crisp".

(Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).

André Coutanche
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"André Coutanche" <andrec.DeleteThis@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> Duke of URL wrote:
>> "Alec Cawley" <alec.DeleteThis@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>>
>>> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips
>>> to Americans).
>>
>> You can NOT be serious!
>
> *****
> Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road
> crisp".
> (Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).

OMSG! and *gaaaag*! When I lived in Scotland, I suspected that Brits
would eat _anything_ that could be deep-fat-fried - this confirms it.
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André Coutanche wrote:
> Duke of URL wrote:
>
>>"Alec Cawley" <alec DeleteThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>>
>>
>>>Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
>>>Americans).
>>
>>You can NOT be serious!
>
>
> *****
>
> Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road crisp".
>
> (Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).

Lots of E numbers to simulate Hedgehogs, I'd guess. Under the Trades
Descriptions Act (or something like that) in the UK if it says 'hedgehog
flavour' then it *must* actually taste of hedgehogs.

In the same way, 'rabbit flavour' cat food must taste of rabbit, and be
fit for human consumption - since the cats generally can't tell you what
it tastes like, some poor bugger out there's got a lovely job![1]



---
David
"Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cosy,
doesn't try it on."
--- Billy Connolly


[1] At least dog food looks like chunky pate... cat food is slimy and
has all those lovely tubey bits in it. Ick.
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David Harcombe wrote:
> André Coutanche wrote:
>> Duke of URL wrote:
>>
>>> "Alec Cawley" <alec RemoveThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
>>>> Americans).
>>>
>>> You can NOT be serious!
>>
>>
>> *****
>>
>> Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road
>> crisp".
>>
>> (Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).
>
> Lots of E numbers to simulate Hedgehogs, I'd guess. Under the Trades
> Descriptions Act (or something like that) in the UK if it says
> 'hedgehog flavour' then it *must* actually taste of hedgehogs.
>
> In the same way, 'rabbit flavour' cat food must taste of rabbit, and
> be fit for human consumption - since the cats generally can't tell
> you what it tastes like, some poor bugger out there's got a lovely
> job![1]


> [1] At least dog food looks like chunky pate... cat food is slimy and
> has all those lovely tubey bits in it. Ick.

Oi! That sounds like one of Throat's finest . . .
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"Steveski" <steveski7SPAMbeGONE.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> David Harcombe wrote:
>> Andri Coutanche wrote:
>>> Duke of URL wrote:
>>>> "Alec Cawley" <alec.DeleteThis@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps
>>>>> (chips to Americans).
>>>>
>>>> You can NOT be serious!
>>> *****
>>> Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road
>>> crisp".
>>> (Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).
>>
>> Lots of E numbers to simulate Hedgehogs, I'd guess. Under the
>> Trades Descriptions Act (or something like that) in the UK if it
>> says 'hedgehog flavour' then it *must* actually taste of hedgehogs.
>> In the same way, 'rabbit flavour' cat food must taste of rabbit,
>> and be fit for human consumption - since the cats generally can't
>> tell you what it tastes like, some poor bugger out there's got a
>> lovely job![1]
>
>> [1] At least dog food looks like chunky pate... cat food is slimy
>> and has all those lovely tubey bits in it. Ick.

Not MINE! They get (canned) wee bits of steak, turkey, chicken,
shrimp/tuna ekcetra in "gravy". Otherwise, I get *looked* at.

> Oi! That sounds like one of Throat's finest . . .

It is...
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bewtifulfreak wrote:
> Maaike wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:29 +0000, David Harcombe
>><David.Harcombe.DeleteThis@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I hope they do - my wife'll be most upset when we get to
>>>Canananananada if so, since she's looking forward to being able to
>>>put bread & milk out for the hedgehogs in the back garden!
>>
>>No offense, but that's a singularly stupid idea, especially if you're
>>someplace rural. Giving wild animals the idea that people are good
>>sources of food has gotten many people and more animals in danger,
>>sometimes of the life-threatening sort. You may only be planning to
>>feed something cute and harmless, but that doesn't mean *only* cute
>>and harmless creatures will start hanging around your property.
>
> Exactly. Not only that, but as you mentioned, it can be dangerous to the
> animals, too, as they tend to become too trusting of humans, to their own
> detriment. That said, here in England, feeding hedgehogs is pretty
> harmless, as they hang out in gardens anyway eating slugs and whatnot, so
> putting out a bit of dog food for them, especially in areas where you don't
> get a whole lot of big-teethed wildlife running rampent - I suppose you the
> odd fox, but they tend to be much more wary of people and other animals than
> their reputation might suggest [1] - tends to be pretty common, and causes
> little problems in general. Even David Attenborough was putting out food
> for hedgehogs in his wonderful Life of Mammals documentary, and I don't
> think he would do so if he thought it would cause them or us any harm.

Agreed, on both counts; if we weren't townies, I'd not let her do it (at
my grandparent's house in the Lake District - which was *very* rural)
we'd not have dreamed of feeding the wildlife. In fact we were more
concerned with getting rid of it! The moles, I'm sure, would have loved
any food put out for hedgehogs, and the rabbits were just a PITA.

>>Bear in mind that we have a lot more wildlife than you're used to, and
>>much of it comes with claws and teeth.
>
>
> I think that's it....it depends on the environment, and it's denizens.
> Putting out food for animals in Canada may not be as harmless as it is here;
> as I said, a bit of research would probably be wise before feeding anything.
>

Absolutely right. Quite correct. As I said above, we're both townies
(she's completely city-bred, I at least used to hang out in the country
during the holidays in my yoof), so unless we knew for certain that
there were the expected small critters eating the food you put out, then
we'd not put it out (probably under duress on her count, but I *would*
insist... honest).

--
David
"Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cosy,
doesn't try it on."
--- Billy Connolly
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