Hedgehog

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:27:56 +0000, Andrew Eremin wrote:

> David Harcombe wrote:
>>
>> [1] At least dog food looks like chunky pate... cat food is slimy and
>> has all those lovely tubey bits in it. Ick.
>
> Umm, chunky pate type stuff that could originally have been anything
> before being pureed is better how precisely?

Umm... only in that you can't actually *see* the tubey bits.


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David Harcombe wrote:
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> Duke of URL wrote:
> | I suspect there are a lot of readers who, like me, have never seen a
> | hedgehog and wondered.
> | Go to alt.binaries.pictures.military
> | Keyword Hedgehog
> |
> |
> How can anyone not have seen a hedgehog? Are you Merkin? Do they not
> have them there?
>
> I hope they do - my wife'll be most upset when we get to Canananananada
> if so, since she's looking forward to being able to put bread & milk out
> for the hedgehogs in the back garden!

ICVWBW especially since the original poster has contributed to the
ongoing thread without mentioning it, but the reference to
alt.binaries.pictures.**military** kind of gave me the impression this
wasn't a reference to the small spiny haired creature (unless some
defence departments somewhere have been doing some advanced selective
breeding).

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"Andrew Eremin" <a.eremin.DeleteThis@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> David Harcombe wrote:
>> Duke of URL wrote:

>>> I suspect there are a lot of readers who, like me, have never
>>> seen a hedgehog and wondered.
>>> Go to alt.binaries.pictures.military Keyword Hedgehog
>>>
>> How can anyone not have seen a hedgehog? Are you Merkin? Do they
>> not have them there?
>>
>> I hope they do - my wife'll be most upset when we get to
>> Canananananada if so, since she's looking forward to being able to
>> put bread & milk out for the hedgehogs in the back garden!
>
> ICVWBW especially since the original poster has contributed to the
> ongoing thread without mentioning it, but the reference to
> alt.binaries.pictures.**military** kind of gave me the impression
> this wasn't a reference to the small spiny haired creature (unless
> some defence departments somewhere have been doing some advanced
> selective breeding).

It's because that's the only picture NG I participate in - every other
one I've ever tried ended up being spammed by pornographers.
Besides, given that a Hedgehog is also an old Naval weapon, it
resulted in some good comments. Yes, the photo *is* of the animal.
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Daibhid Ceannaideach wrote:
>> From: "Stacie Hanes" house_damodred DeleteThis @yahoo.com
>> Date: 19/11/03 03:13 GMT Standard Time
>> Message-id: <zdBub.9932$Wy4.2669@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
>
>>>> "Daibhid Ceannaideach" <daibhidchenedelh DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>
>>>>> Member of the same family, the egg-laying mammals, or
>>>>> Metronomes[1].
>
>> The "metronome" bit is from a Dave Barry piece. Maybe other
>> places, too, but definitely Dave Barry.
>
> I thought I made it up, but, like Pterry said about other Genghis
> Cohens "It's a fairly obvious pun, if your mind is wired that way."

So you're wired like Dave Barry? It could be much, much worse. I *like*
Dave Barry.

When CJ came out, there was much swearing around here.... I wrote something
about 15 years ago, when I was in high school, that featured place names
along the lines of Don'tgonearthe Castle. If it ever gets published, I'll be
praying no one says I got it *from* anywhere.

Not only does your mind have to be wired that way, you have to know what
metronomes (and the other jobbies) *are* for it to be funny.

Stacie
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André Coutanche wrote:
> Duke of URL wrote:
>> "Alec Cawley" <alec RemoveThis @spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>>
>>> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
>>> Americans).
>>
>> You can NOT be serious!
>
> *****
>
> Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road crisp".
>
> (Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).

They were made by Walkers, as a special edition in c. 1984-1985. (1)
And I seem to remember they tasted like roast chicken [2], and
not very much like hedgehog at all.(2)


[1] We had some at school. I remember what class I was in when we had them.
[2] Roast chicken crisps that is. Which don't taste like roast chicken.
[3] Yes. I have eaten hedgehog. It is very much like a combination of pork
and
rabbit, but less strong.

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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:29 +0000, David Harcombe
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>Duke of URL wrote:
>| I suspect there are a lot of readers who, like me, have never seen a
>| hedgehog and wondered.
>| Go to alt.binaries.pictures.military
>| Keyword Hedgehog
>|
>|
>How can anyone not have seen a hedgehog? Are you Merkin? Do they not
>have them there?
>
>I hope they do - my wife'll be most upset when we get to Canananananada
>if so, since she's looking forward to being able to put bread & milk out
>for the hedgehogs in the back garden!

May I add a word of caution.

Here in New England, and I suspect it applies to Southern Canada, too,
rabies is endemic.

Putting out seed for the birds (and inadvertently for the squirrels)
is all well and good, but putting out dog or cat food will attract
little darlings like skunk, raccoons or coyotes. Quite apart from the
nuisance value, all are potential rabies carriers.

I hasten to add that I live in suburban Connecticut - not the deep
woods. A few years ago, my cat was attacked by a coyote, right in our
driveway. Fortunately I was able to drive it off (angry Scotsmen can
be quite intimidating at times) but my little moggie had to spend six
months under house arrest. If her rabies shots hadn't been current, we
would have had to put her down.

If, in your dealings with the local fauna, you come across a normally
wild animal like a raccoon that seems unusually docile, perhaps acting
strangely, it isn't being friendly - it's terminally ill.

And horribly infectious.

The treatment for rabies isn't quite as bad as it was in Pasteur's
day, but it's no picnic. Don't go near a suspicious animal.

.... and as for hedgehogs, I occasionally see one for sale in the local
pet shop (which is sad)

Regards

Doug Urquhart
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In message <3fbb3d9a.TakeThisOut@212.67.96.135>, André Coutanche
<andrec.TakeThisOut@onetel.net.uk> writes
>Duke of URL wrote:
>> "Alec Cawley" <alec.TakeThisOut@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ZA3vmT0$Bpu$EwG3@cawley.demon.co.uk
>>
>>> Some time back, somebody marketed hedgehog flavour crisps (chips to
>>> Americans).
>>
>> You can NOT be serious!
>
>*****
>
>Oh, yes. With the marketing tagline, "Not a middle of the road crisp".
>
>(Though I don't know what they were *really* flavoured with).

Whatever it was, it was suitable for vegetarians. Note hedgehog
*flavoured* crisps, not hedgehog crisps. The originator claimed to know
what hedgehogs tasted like because he was of Romany descent and his
family had regarded them as a delicacy.

To cook a hedgehog, apparently you coat it in clay and put it straight
on the fire. After a suitable period, when you remove the clay the
prickles come off with it leaving you a nicely roasted hog in the
middle. Or so they say.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:02:08 +0000, David Harcombe
<David.Harcombe.TakeThisOut@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>bewtifulfreak wrote:
<chop>
>> Putting out food for animals in Canada may not be as harmless as it is here;
>> as I said, a bit of research would probably be wise before feeding anything.
>>
>
>Absolutely right. Quite correct. As I said above, we're both townies
>(she's completely city-bred, I at least used to hang out in the country
>during the holidays in my yoof), so unless we knew for certain that
>there were the expected small critters eating the food you put out, then
>we'd not put it out (probably under duress on her count, but I *would*
>insist... honest).

I'm very relieved to hear that... Foxes (unless they have rabies or
something) are no trouble at all usually, but raccoons and coyotes
(and rats, in some spots) have histories of making pests of themselves
or getting into fights with neighbourhood pets. And then there's the
possibility of bear and lynxes and things showing up if you're really
out of the way... I'm glad you're sensible about this.

-Maaike
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Alec Cawley wrote:

Spoiler for veggies/squeamish. Deals with cooking hedgehogs.
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> To cook a hedgehog, apparently you coat it in clay and put it straight
> on the fire. After a suitable period, when you remove the clay the
> prickles come off with it leaving you a nicely roasted hog in the
> middle. Or so they say.

It needs to be gutted first. If you omit this step:

1. It'll taste horrible
2. You'll be ill.


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bewtifulfreak wrote:
>
> Andrew Eremin wrote:
> > bewtifulfreak wrote:
>
> I suppose you the odd fox, but they tend
> >> to be much more wary of people and other animals than their
> >> reputation might suggest
> >
> > In my area of London at least you don't need to put food out to
> > attract
> > foxes - they're perfectly capable of finding it in the bins. A pair
> > was sleeping in our back garden over the summer, and while they were
> > pretty
> > wary during the daylight hours - most of the time they'd run off if I
> > opened a window when they happened to be in the garden - they became
> > somewhat more confident at night. Quite often while walking home I'd
> > see
> > them in our street - either in a front garden or on the pavement
> > itslef - and they just stared at me for awhile, then casually loped
> > off to
> > wherever they were going.
>
> Oh, yeah, I'm not saying they're never around in certain areas, or never a
> nuisance, but just that some people seem to be under the mistaken impression
> that they're so viscious, and that really doesn't seem to be the case (which
> your anecdote would appear to bear out).

Oh no, not a nuisance. I may have given some the wrong impression: I
like seeing them, they're not in any way vicious IME, and I don't even
consider it a nuisance factor that they rummage for food. I'd much
rather they ate it than it went to fuel the population of rats that is
an unescapable fact of most of London due to the many rivers and streams
that have just been built over down the years (our street for instance
apparently has the River Effra running under it).

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Andrew Eremin <a.eremin.RemoveThis@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> bewtifulfreak wrote:
(on the subject of foxes)

> Oh no, not a nuisance. I may have given some the wrong impression: I
> like seeing them, they're not in any way vicious IME, and I don't even
> consider it a nuisance factor that they rummage for food. I'd much
> rather they ate it than it went to fuel the population of rats that is
> an unescapable fact of most of London due to the many rivers and
> streams that have just been built over down the years (our street for
> instance apparently has the River Effra running under it).

Which means you must live somewhere vaguely near me. I'm near the top
of Brixton Hill.


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Mike Stevens wrote:
> Andrew Eremin <a.eremin.DeleteThis@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>bewtifulfreak wrote:
>
> (on the subject of foxes)
>
>
>>Oh no, not a nuisance. I may have given some the wrong impression: I
>>like seeing them, they're not in any way vicious IME, and I don't even
>>consider it a nuisance factor that they rummage for food. I'd much
>>rather they ate it than it went to fuel the population of rats that is
>>an unescapable fact of most of London due to the many rivers and
>>streams that have just been built over down the years (our street for
>>instance apparently has the River Effra running under it).
>
>
> Which means you must live somewhere vaguely near me. I'm near the top
> of Brixton Hill.
>

And not too far (geographically speaking, although give LT, it could
take an amount of time measured in geological scales to got here) from
me - who has Regents' Canal going under the next block and spends every
weekend behind a stall at Camden Lock Market at the moment!


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"Michael Hellwig" <the_eye.DeleteThis@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:34:55 +0000, Alec Cawley wrote:

>>> BTW, why are they called "hedgehog" anyway? I don't find much
>>> hedgehogs have in common with a hog.
>>
>> The noise they make. As a previous poster said, they can make an
>> extraordinary amount of noise for their size, and is generally
>> quite similar to the sort of snuffling noise a pig makes while
>> feeding (not the full-voiced "oink"), And they either live in, or
>> are often found in, hedges.
>
> dunno .. as far as I can tell, they sound like an asthmatic pervert

Er, dare we ask how you came to make the comparison? Or will we be
happier not knowing.
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