Next Honorverse Book?

In article <ec8o1i01nbp.RemoveThis@enews2.newsguy.com>, justreversethepartbeforethe.RemoveThis@got.net wrote:
>
>I seem to recall that the next "pure" Honorverse book (as opposed to Crown of
>Slaves II, Shadow of Saganami II, story anthology or whatever) was projected
>for 2008.
>
>

Ugh, but yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking.

I presume any Saganami II type book isn't going to be a direct sequel to
_Shadows of Saganami_ what with that being a stand-alone book (according to
the cover at any rate!).



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Personally, I think it would be entertaining for the Kingdom of Manticore,
the Republic of Haven, the Protectorate of Grayson, and the Andermani
Empire, to join to "bury the hatchet" in the Solarian League.

"John Fairhurst" <john.RemoveThis@johnsbooks.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ec8o1i01nbp.RemoveThis@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> justreversethepartbeforethe.RemoveThis@got.net wrote:
>>
>>I seem to recall that the next "pure" Honorverse book (as opposed to Crown
>>of
>>Slaves II, Shadow of Saganami II, story anthology or whatever) was
>>projected
>>for 2008.
>>
>>
>
> Ugh, but yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking.
>
> I presume any Saganami II type book isn't going to be a direct sequel to
> _Shadows of Saganami_ what with that being a stand-alone book (according
> to
> the cover at any rate!).
>
>
>
> --
> John Fairhurst
> john.RemoveThis@johnsbooks.co.uk
> http://www.johnsbooks.co.uk/Books/Weber
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"John Fairhurst" <john.RemoveThis@johnsbooks.co.uk> wrote in message
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> So the end of _At All Costs_ has both sides in a state of total shock over
> their latest meeting to date and (apparently) eager, well perhaps not
> *eager*,
> but desperate, to get their revenge on each other. Plus there are a few
> other
> plot points DW needs to expand on
>
> However, we're going to have to wait for the next Honor book and as far as
> I
> can see it's going to be quite a wait.
>
> Does any one have a timetable for the next installment *please*?

He's supposed to have inked a deal for something late next year if I recall
right.

>
>
>
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> John Fairhurst
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deowll wrote:
> "Marc Reeve" <cram.TakeThisOut@got.net> wrote in message

>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
>
> And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend to
> inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
> responsible.

Will we be treated to a practical example of the alternative meaning of
"brief feelings of regret" on the part of those responsible?
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"Offbreed" <offbreed_106.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> deowll wrote:
>> "Marc Reeve" <cram.RemoveThis@got.net> wrote in message
>
>>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
>>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
>>
>> And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend
>> to inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
>> responsible.
>
> Will we be treated to a practical example of the alternative meaning of
> "brief feelings of regret" on the part of those responsible?

At this point I didn't even suggest Victor would feel anything. That's what
makes him both effective and scary. If he has brief feelings of regret it is
likely to be after the fact. Before the fact he is on task. After the fact
he may not be retrospective. I suspect this is one reason why his friends
worry about him. Victor is border line for creating and running the ultimate
in police states.
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"Offbreed" <offbreed_106 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> deowll wrote:
>> "Marc Reeve" <cram RemoveThis @got.net> wrote in message
>
>>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
>>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
>>
>> And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend
>> to inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
>> responsible.
>
> Will we be treated to a practical example of the alternative meaning of
> "brief feelings of regret" on the part of those responsible?

Just think of Victor -trying- to be vengeful and cruel!!

I definately want him as a friend, if only because I'd be scared witless to
have him as an enemy.

gS49
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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "deowll" <deowll DeleteThis @bellsouth.net>
wrote on Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:13:55 -0500 in alt.books.david-weber :
>
>"Marc Reeve" <cram DeleteThis @got.net> wrote in message
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>> Fred Burton wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wouldn't be surprised at all to see CoS2 have a major plot element that
>>> focuses on our two favorite super spys trying to find out who's
>>> responsible
>>> for all of the assassinations that happened in At All Costs, etc.
>>>
>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
>
>And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend to
>inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
>responsible.

Why do the thoughts "No one has ever been able to prove anything." and
"I have no surviving enemies." come to mind?


tschus
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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "gS49" <gersmith00 DeleteThis @verizon.net>
wrote on Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:04:18 GMT in alt.books.david-weber :
>
>"Offbreed" <offbreed_106 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> deowll wrote:
>>> "Marc Reeve" <cram DeleteThis @got.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
>>>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
>>>
>>> And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend
>>> to inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
>>> responsible.
>>
>> Will we be treated to a practical example of the alternative meaning of
>> "brief feelings of regret" on the part of those responsible?
>
>Just think of Victor -trying- to be vengeful and cruel!!

Victor is not "cruel". He's completely indifferent to the suffering of
others, especially when those others are considered part of the topography.
But the ones who are responsible for threatening his interests will, those
he will terminate with extreme prejudice.

>I definately want him as a friend, if only because I'd be scared witless to
>have him as an enemy.

Victor needs a T-shirt which reads "This side towards enemy."


tschus
pyotr

Although I think the most dangerous phrase ever heard will remain "Victor
Cachat has a plan ..."
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In article <k5h2f2hql9bhi5co41tsav8t9smov6edda.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
pyotr filipivich <phamp.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "gS49" <gersmith00.TakeThisOut@verizon.net>
> wrote on Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:04:18 GMT in alt.books.david-weber :
> >
> >"Offbreed" <offbreed_106.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:SfqdnZGr6-aU_W3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@scnresearch.com...
> >> deowll wrote:
> >>> "Marc Reeve" <cram.TakeThisOut@got.net> wrote in message
> >>
> >>>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
> >>>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
> >>>
> >>> And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend
> >>> to inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
> >>> responsible.
> >>
> >> Will we be treated to a practical example of the alternative meaning of
> >> "brief feelings of regret" on the part of those responsible?
> >
> >Just think of Victor -trying- to be vengeful and cruel!!
>
> Victor is not "cruel". He's completely indifferent to the suffering of
> others, especially when those others are considered part of the topography.
> But the ones who are responsible for threatening his interests will, those
> he will terminate with extreme prejudice.

For Victor to be completely indifferent to the suffering of others, he
would have to be a complete sociopath, which he isn't. What Victor can
do is feign indifference so well that people *think* he's a complete
sociopath.

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Don Sample wrote:

> For Victor to be completely indifferent to the suffering of others, he
> would have to be a complete sociopath, which he isn't. What Victor can
> do is feign indifference so well that people *think* he's a complete
> sociopath.

He has a stronger than usual "us/them" sense. "Us" gets concern, "them"
get nothing, not even hatred.
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"pyotr filipivich" <phamp.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "gS49" <gersmith00.TakeThisOut@verizon.net>
> wrote on Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:04:18 GMT in alt.books.david-weber :
>>
>>"Offbreed" <offbreed_106.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:SfqdnZGr6-aU_W3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@scnresearch.com...
>>> deowll wrote:
>>>> "Marc Reeve" <cram.TakeThisOut@got.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> True dat... Victor's going to be seriously pissed about Thandi nearly
>>>>> getting waxed. Ditto Anton re: Berry.
>>>>
>>>> And when these men get seriously pissed at somebody they usually intend
>>>> to inflect grevious, not to say fatal, injury on the party or parties
>>>> responsible.
>>>
>>> Will we be treated to a practical example of the alternative meaning of
>>> "brief feelings of regret" on the part of those responsible?
>>
>>Just think of Victor -trying- to be vengeful and cruel!!
>
> Victor is not "cruel". He's completely indifferent to the suffering of
> others, especially when those others are considered part of the
> topography.
> But the ones who are responsible for threatening his interests will, those
> he will terminate with extreme prejudice.

You're right, he isn't cruel (nor is he indifferent). I was joking about
how frightening he'd be if he were.

>
>>I definately want him as a friend, if only because I'd be scared witless
>>to
>>have him as an enemy.
>
> Victor needs a T-shirt which reads "This side towards enemy."
>
>
> tschus
> pyotr
>
> Although I think the most dangerous phrase ever heard will remain "Victor
> Cachat has a plan ..."
> --
> pyotr filipivich
> "Set phasers to deep fat fy, extra crispy, Cajun style."
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In article <k5h2f2hql9bhi5co41tsav8t9smov6edda DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
pyotr filipivich <phamp DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>Although I think the most dangerous phrase ever heard will remain "Victor
>Cachat has a plan ..."

What about Miles Vorkosigan?
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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Offbreed <offbreed_106 DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
wrote on Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:26:19 -0700 in alt.books.david-weber :
>Don Sample wrote:
>
>> For Victor to be completely indifferent to the suffering of others, he
>> would have to be a complete sociopath, which he isn't. What Victor can
>> do is feign indifference so well that people *think* he's a complete
>> sociopath.
>
>He has a stronger than usual "us/them" sense. "Us" gets concern, "them"
>get nothing, not even hatred.

Yeah, what he said. Victor is not a sociopath, just indifferent to
those who are merely part of the scenery (Like the Mesan operators he
"interviewed" in the Wages of Sin.). Or have betrayed the Revolution.
The point is, Victor doesn't agonize over having to kill someone, or
over having killed someone. He doesn't have to get worked up, he just does
it.
I suspect that he agonizes more over why he is not bothered by his
ability to kill or inflict bodily harm dispassionately.

Remember as well, he was mortified to discover that he thoroughly
enjoyed "ravishing" a "helpless" Solarian Marine Lieutenant.
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