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Yes, I agree Louis did make Lestat feel guilty for being a good vampire.
Louis seemed almost human at times. If Louis could have switched
bodies(like Lestat in TOTBT)I think Louis would have done it.
Bye Bye
Jesse
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JesseRunknown wrote:
> Yes, I agree Louis did make Lestat feel guilty for being a good vampire.
> Louis seemed almost human at times. If Louis could have switched
> bodies(like Lestat in TOTBT)I think Louis would have done it.
> Bye Bye
> Jesse
>

I never could quite understand why Louis reacted to Lestat like he did
when he was in the human body. He didn't want to help him at all. I'm
sure some of that was because he knew Lestat had made a stupid decision
and now he wanted him to understand the results of his decision. But you
would think that he would have helped him a little bit.

Pat
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I would have thought Louis would have helped him too. I could tell Louis
envied Lestat being human again. The sad part was when Lestat burned the
house that Louis was staying at and when he looked back Marius was
standing there and he had turned his back on him. Lestat's only hope was
David.
Bye Bye
Jesse
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In IWTV Louis was attacked by a "mindless corpse" tho they are vampire
creatures why are they different?Claudia's theroy was that when they were
made a vampire they were put in the grave until the thirst was so strong
they dug there way out of the grave. I can't understand why these
creatures have rotting flesh. If they are vampires why can't they heal?
bye bye
Jesse
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In IWTV Louis was attacked by a "mindless corpse" tho they are vampire
creatures why are they different?Claudia's theroy was that when they were
made a vampire they were put in the grave until the thirst was so strong
they dug there way out of the grave. I can't understand why these
creatures have rotting flesh. If they are vampires why can't they heal?
bye bye
Jesse
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In IWTV Louis was attacked by a "mindless corpse" tho they are vampire
creatures why are they different?Claudia's theroy was that when they
were
made a vampire they were put in the grave until the thirst was so
strong
they dug there way out of the grave. I can't understand why these
creatures have rotting flesh. If they are vampires why can't they heal?

bye bye
Jesse

They weren't made properly to begin with. I think Marius warns Lestat
about revenents and why he thinks they were "improperly made" and tells
him to stay away from them.
Ashe
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Louis wasn't going to help Lestat become a vampire again because he
viewed Lestat being in a human body as the gift of a second chance to
start over. He urges him not to look for the BT and to go back to South
America with Gretchen and spend the rest of his life doing good to
attone for all the evil he'd done. I also thought it was interesting
that Louis has the insight to understand that Lestat being in a human
body doesn't make him a human being....it took a little white for
Lestat to grasp this idea.
Ashe
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In IWTV I didn't like Armand. He went to great lengths to have Louis for
himself. In the end Armand himself admitted to Louis it was he that caused
Claudia's death. I think part of the reason Armand did what he did was to
get back at Lestat. Armand still carried the grudge he had against Lestat.
In TVL, Lestat showed Armand that the way he was living was wrong. I think
Armand was pissed that he had to start a new way of life. And that Lestat
was the cause of it.
Bye Bye
Jesse
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JesseRunknown wrote:
> In IWTV I didn't like Armand. He went to great lengths to have Louis for
> himself. In the end Armand himself admitted to Louis it was he that caused
> Claudia's death. I think part of the reason Armand did what he did was to
> get back at Lestat. Armand still carried the grudge he had against Lestat.
> In TVL, Lestat showed Armand that the way he was living was wrong. I think
> Armand was pissed that he had to start a new way of life. And that Lestat
> was the cause of it.
> Bye Bye
> Jesse
>

I think Armand comes across as being very childish. In some ways, he
doesn't seem to have ever grown up mentally from the time he was made a
vampire. He did have a very sheltered childhood (in some ways) and
especially his time with Marius was very idealistic. I think Marius
especially prized the youthfulness of Armand, his childish ways..etc.
But in dealing with the other vampires, he does come across as being a
bit arrogant.

Pat
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Armand even knew the way he was living was wrong. In TVL, he showed his
rage when he was in the church with Lestat and his mother. Lestat and his
mother were calling to his followers to come see there leader(Armand) in
the church himself. I tell you...the way Armand was living was very gross
and nasty! Armand hated the idea that his coven would split up and he
would no longer be there leader.
Bye Bye
Jesse
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I wouldn't say that one version is anymore accurate than the other. I think
that it all has to do with the perspective of the one telling the story. I
think that IWTV was told as Louis perceived it. You also have to take into
consideration that Louis was ignorant and naive - Lestat hid all of his
knowledge from Louis. He figured that no one taught him when his was made,
so he wasn't responsible for teaching Louis.

-JD


"PatK" <imzadi12.DeleteThis@erinet.com> wrote in message
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> JesseRunknown wrote:
>> In IWTV Louis tells his story about how he met Lestat and there history
>> together. In TVL Lestat sayes Louis is lying about things he said about
>> him. I come more to believe Louis than I would Lestat. Louis seems alot
>> more innocent than Lestat. Lestat tends to break the rules alot. They
>> fought alot in IWTV like brothers do. It wasn't hard for me to see who's
>> the good brother and who's the bad brother. Bye for now,
>> Jesse
>
> I think Lestat just saw things differently than Louis did in a lot of
> things. Louis seemed to make Lestat feel guilty for being a good vampire.
> I also believe Louis' view on things is the more accurate.
>
> Pat
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It's my opinion that their powers were limited due to the quality of the
blood they survived on. In IWTV, when Claudia tried to kill Lestat, he
survived off the blood of the creatures living in the swamp he was dumped
in. His powers and apperance were diminished until he drank some better
blood.

-JD


"JesseRunknown" <mal.andsam DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> In IWTV Louis was attacked by a "mindless corpse" tho they are vampire
> creatures why are they different?Claudia's theroy was that when they were
> made a vampire they were put in the grave until the thirst was so strong
> they dug there way out of the grave. I can't understand why these
> creatures have rotting flesh. If they are vampires why can't they heal?
> bye bye
> Jesse
>
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Anne Rice was asked the same question and she said Louis lied.




"JesseRunknown" <mal.andsam DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> In IWTV Louis tells his story about how he met Lestat and there history
> together. In TVL Lestat sayes Louis is lying about things he said about
> him. I come more to believe Louis than I would Lestat. Louis seems alot
> more innocent than Lestat. Lestat tends to break the rules alot. They
> fought alot in IWTV like brothers do. It wasn't hard for me to see who's
> the good brother and who's the bad brother. Bye for now,
> Jesse
>
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