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ckovacs

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:47 pm
Post subject: Identity of "Snuff" from "A Night in the Lonesome October"
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I noticed that Norris updated his website at last
(zelazny.corrupt.net) with one entry including the identity of the cat
from A Night in the Lonesome October.

I then noticed that no one had identified the main character, that of
the dog Snuff.

An idle moment of thought and searching, and I believe I have the
answer (which I also emailed to Norris earlier today).

The clues to the identities of the characters lie in the dedications
that Zelazny made at the start of the book: one dedication is to the
author Albert Paysone Terhune. Terhune wrote a lot of stories about
dogs. One in particular -- "His Dog" -- involves a man who discovers
a collie with a broken leg, rescues it, and then the two become
devoted to each other. To the point that the dog -- named Chum --
seems especially intelligent and having an almost telepathic
connection with his master, such that the master sees himself looking
through the dog's eyes at times, and understanding what the dog is
thinking. Therefore, I would bet that Chum is the inspiration for the
main character of A Night in the Lonesome October, none other than
Snuff.

Now back to not idling.

Chris

(mun.ca not mac for reply)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:13 pm
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Legion wrote:

 > In the book the sentence "I like being a watchdog better than what I
 > was before he summoned me and gave me this job."comes up, so what do
 > you think Snuff was?
I've always assumed some type of deamon. Is is significant that he said
-watch-dog instead of just dog? A Hell-hound maybe? What do the temple
dogs like those in in Lord Deamon do other than watch temples?
Kerebos(sp?) got any relatives?

The fact that he visits with the "elder dog" (Howler?) implies real
dogdom, not just something other in dog form.

What about Jack's several curses? Is there enough info to identify any
of them?

3ch<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:30 pm
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Things fall apart; the center cannot hold. But what the hell, it's
home. And here ckovacs.DeleteThis@mac.com (ckovacs) wrote on 6 Jul 2004 16:47:34
-0700:

 > I noticed that Norris updated his website at last
 > (zelazny.corrupt.net) with one entry including the identity of the cat
 > from A Night in the Lonesome October.
 >
 > I then noticed that no one had identified the main character, that of
 > the dog Snuff.
 >
 > An idle moment of thought and searching, and I believe I have the
 > answer (which I also emailed to Norris earlier today).
 >
 > The clues to the identities of the characters lie in the dedications
 > that Zelazny made at the start of the book: one dedication is to the
 > author Albert Paysone Terhune. Terhune wrote a lot of stories about
 > dogs. One in particular -- "His Dog" -- involves a man who discovers
 > a collie with a broken leg, rescues it, and then the two become
 > devoted to each other. To the point that the dog -- named Chum --
 > seems especially intelligent and having an almost telepathic
 > connection with his master, such that the master sees himself looking
 > through the dog's eyes at times, and understanding what the dog is
 > thinking. Therefore, I would bet that Chum is the inspiration for the
 > main character of A Night in the Lonesome October, none other than
 > Snuff.
 >

That sounds plausible, but I'm curious what Snuff was *before* he
became a dog.

In the book the sentence "I like being a watchdog better than what I
was before he summoned me and gave me this job."comes up, so what do
you think Snuff was?

--
RM (remove these twice from my email to reply)

Symbols, by their very nature, conceal as well
as indicate, damn them!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:30 pm
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I have no idea what he was before...

I just noticed that one of Terhune's most popular stories of all was
entitled Buff: A Collie, about a dog that saves its master from
wrongfully being accused of a theft.

The similarity of Snuff and Buff make me think that perhaps I had the
wrong Terhune dog after all...that is, that Buff not Chum inspired
Snuff...but I think it's very clear that Terhune's dogs inspired
Snuff.

Chris

Legion <amadaRnM.DeleteThis@zonneRtM.nl> wrote in message news:
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 > That sounds plausible, but I'm curious what Snuff was *before* he
 > became a dog.
 >
 > In the book the sentence "I like being a watchdog better than what I
 > was before he summoned me and gave me this job."comes up, so what do
 > you think Snuff was?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:56 am
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Looks like you found the source for "Snuff." He was likely a demon and was
"summoned" to be a sorcerer's(Jack's) familiar...
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