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"ANIM8Rfsk" <anim8rfsk.DeleteThis@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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 > Inferno is my favorite of the Niven/Pournelle books. I like more
Niven and
 > less Pournelle. Love Inferno, Lucifer's Hammer is very good, hate the
Motes.

I tried The Mote in God's Eye and got about half-way through it before I
gave up. First and only Niven book of any nature I've ever done that to.

Have a great day!

Ernest
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<< From: "Ernest Fairchild" ernestf.RemoveThis@delphidude.com >>


<< I tried The Mote in God's Eye and got about half-way through it before I
gave up. >>

That's further than I've ever gotten with it. People tell me that if I can get
past the first 100 pages it gets readable, but I've never gotten that far. I
also find it doesn't stick with me - if I put it down for more than a couple
days I have to start over.
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <anim8rfsk DeleteThis @aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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 > << From: "Ernest Fairchild" ernestf DeleteThis @delphidude.com >>
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 >
 > << I tried The Mote in God's Eye and got about half-way through it before
I
 > gave up. >>
 >
 > That's further than I've ever gotten with it. People tell me that if I
can get
 > past the first 100 pages it gets readable, but I've never gotten that far.
I
 > also find it doesn't stick with me - if I put it down for more than a
couple
 > days I have to start over.
 >
I think it's one of those YMMV things - I liked it but I haven't dared the
sequel yet.

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Peter wrote:
 > "ANIM8Rfsk" <anim8rfsk.RemoveThis@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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  >><< From: "Ernest Fairchild" ernestf.RemoveThis@delphidude.com >>
  >>
  >>
  >><< I tried The Mote in God's Eye and got about half-way through it before
 >
 > I
 >
  >>gave up. >>
  >>
  >>That's further than I've ever gotten with it. People tell me that if I
 >
 > can get
 >
  >>past the first 100 pages it gets readable, but I've never gotten that far.
 >
 > I
 >
  >>also find it doesn't stick with me - if I put it down for more than a
 >
 > couple
 >
  >>days I have to start over.
  >>
 >
 > I think it's one of those YMMV things - I liked it but I haven't dared the
 > sequel yet.
 >
 > Peter.
 >
 >

I enjoyed the Mote when I read it ten or more years ago. I recently read
the sequel and it's truly dreadful. I got it in a remaindering shop for
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On 24 May 2004 05:35:12 GMT, anim8rfsk RemoveThis @aol.comNOSPAM (ANIM8Rfsk)
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 ><< From: "Ernest Fairchild" ernestf RemoveThis @delphidude.com >>
 >
 >
 ><< I tried The Mote in God's Eye and got about half-way through it before I
 >gave up. >>
 >
 >That's further than I've ever gotten with it. People tell me that if I can get
 >past the first 100 pages it gets readable, but I've never gotten that far. I
 >also find it doesn't stick with me - if I put it down for more than a couple
 >days I have to start over.
 >
 >
I had this problem with Mote and also with Destiny's Road (which I
later had a second attempt at and managed to finish).

Is Mote worth a second attempt?
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"Peter Ingham" <ping_SpamTrap.RemoveThis@3days.co.nz> wrote in message
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 > I had this problem with Mote and also with Destiny's Road (which I
 > later had a second attempt at and managed to finish).

I had a terrible time with DR as well, but I managed to finish it. Which
is not to say I understood it at all; I just slogged through it.

Have a great day!

Ernest
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:34:14 +1200, Peter Ingham wrote:

 > I had this problem with Mote and also with Destiny's Road (which I
 > later had a second attempt at and managed to finish).
 >
 > Is Mote worth a second attempt?

Personally, I loved Mote, but found the sequel very disappointing.
Destiny's Road I found initially to be very dull and confusing, until I
got 'dialed in to it' where it became interesting in a slow sort of way.

Then again, I've hated every Tolkien book I've attempted to read (with the
exception of The Hobbit), and loved almost all of the Tanith Lee stuff, so
my reading taste is obviously suspect.
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"Cybes" <plorevhf DeleteThis @FCNZBSS.punevbg.arg.nh> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:34:14 +1200, Peter Ingham wrote:
 >
  > > I had this problem with Mote and also with Destiny's Road (which I
  > > later had a second attempt at and managed to finish).
  > >
  > > Is Mote worth a second attempt?
 >
 > Personally, I loved Mote, but found the sequel very disappointing.
 > Destiny's Road I found initially to be very dull and confusing, until I
 > got 'dialed in to it' where it became interesting in a slow sort of way.
 >
 > Then again, I've hated every Tolkien book I've attempted to read (with the
 > exception of The Hobbit), and loved almost all of the Tanith Lee stuff, so
 > my reading taste is obviously suspect.
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Well I loved both the mote books, perhaps I am easy pleased?
Although DR I found a bit of a slog.
Wait ing with baited breath for Children of the Ringworld.

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Hmmm...

You know, that as time goes by, the author changes and the kind of work
being written changes?

Niven wrote Mote a long time ago. It suffers from issues with
characterisation, which get written off as being very weak, when in fact
their is an archaic style to it that just isn't popular anymore. Mote is a
book about ideas. Moat, however, is a weaker sequal, because it involves a
rewriting of the canon, meaning that everything you know is now wrong. Its
an easy book to dislike for that reason.

I liked Destiny's Road, cos it was annoying and long. It wasn't the happy
egocentric book where the heroes solve everything. Instead, the first
colonists, who had become isolated citizens with their own (quite unpopular)
mores, had to have a very weak hero struggle through the challenges of a
much more modern culture. Imagine a third world person visiting a first
world country to seek resources that we popularly would deny them. I see an
appeal in the hero meeting that challenge, even though it takes forty years
to do it.

Inferno. Inferno is beautifully wicked. Remember the noughts and crosses
game?

Cheers,
Juz
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