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Kenneth M. Lin

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:39 pm
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I must say that this book is terrible and boring as hell. In issue 2
somehow everyone knew that Dracula is "dead" except Storm. (I guess they
don't have Internet in Wakanda.) BTW, is she still married to Black
Panther?

In issue 2 Colossus reverts back to human (and vulnerable) form immediately
after a battle. Was he 100% sure that they had killed all the vampires in
the vicinity?

Jubilee sure grew up a lot. Wasn't she younger than Kitty Pryde? Why did
she have to beat up that Indian doctor just to sneak out?

So Cyclops's big idea is to bring back Dracula? Why don't they emulate 30
Days of Night and get bitten so they'd gain vampire powers so they could
fight them with their powers. Also, how come other vampires are so easy to
kill but Dracula keeps coming back?

Why is this book $3.99? They didn't exactly hire a top artist. (Sorry
Paco.)

What's next? X-Men versus Harry Potters? So it's mutants against muggles.

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grinningdemon

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:14 pm
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:39:49 -0700, "Kenneth M. Lin"
wrote:

>I must say that this book is terrible and boring as hell. In issue 2
>somehow everyone knew that Dracula is "dead" except Storm. (I guess they
>don't have Internet in Wakanda.) BTW, is she still married to Black
>Panther?

Yes...but only when it's convenient to the story.

>In issue 2 Colossus reverts back to human (and vulnerable) form immediately
>after a battle. Was he 100% sure that they had killed all the vampires in
>the vicinity?

He's never exactly been the sharpest tool in the shed.

>Jubilee sure grew up a lot. Wasn't she younger than Kitty Pryde? Why did
>she have to beat up that Indian doctor just to sneak out?

Jubilee, like Kitty, ages or de-ages to suit a given story...a few
years back, she got her own series for about 15 minutes and she was
only 16 in the book...cut to her next appearance in the comics just a
few months later and she's suddenly 20...Kitty grew up somewhat while
in Excalibur and then they shaved a few years off when she came back
to the X-men...it's the nature of these characters.

>So Cyclops's big idea is to bring back Dracula? Why don't they emulate 30
>Days of Night and get bitten so they'd gain vampire powers so they could
>fight them with their powers. Also, how come other vampires are so easy to
>kill but Dracula keeps coming back?

Dracula's special...duh!!!

>Why is this book $3.99? They didn't exactly hire a top artist. (Sorry
>Paco.)

They all will be soon enough...unfortunately.

>What's next? X-Men versus Harry Potters? So it's mutants against muggles.

I don't know what the thought process is here...they made a big deal
out of launching a new X-Men title (though their claim that it's the
first in 20 years is total bullshit) and then put a totally unknown
writer and a B-list artist (at best) on it...I would think they would
have gotten a bigger name for the book or at least moved one of the
better known writers from on to it from another x-title...I'm a little
surprised Kyle & Yost aren't writing it since their X-Force run just
wrapped up.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:25 pm
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"Kenneth M. Lin" wrote in


> I must say that this book is terrible and boring as hell. In issue 2
> somehow everyone knew that Dracula is "dead" except Storm. (I guess
> they don't have Internet in Wakanda.) BTW, is she still married to
> Black Panther?

Not "everybody" knows it. The vamps, of course, because of the leadership
change. The slayers know, because they have to know. Everyone else had to
be told. (Unless they read the DEATH OF DRACULA one-shot.)

> In issue 2 Colossus reverts back to human (and vulnerable) form
> immediately after a battle. Was he 100% sure that they had killed all
> the vampires in the vicinity?

Something he's done all his career. Maybe his armored form is
uncomfortable or something.

> Jubilee sure grew up a lot. Wasn't she younger than Kitty Pryde? Why
> did she have to beat up that Indian doctor just to sneak out?

Kitty's in her very early 20s; Jubes should be in her very late teens.
And she snuck out because -- look, have you been reading any of the
lead-ins to this? Or the tie-ins? She's been under observation because of
a vampiric pseudo-infection she received after being in the splatter
pattern of a terrorist vampire suicide bombing. Nobody on the island
wants a partially turned not-quite-vampire running around loose.
Especially at night.

> So Cyclops's big idea is to bring back Dracula? Why don't they
> emulate 30 Days of Night and get bitten so they'd gain vampire powers
> so they could fight them with their powers. Also, how come other
> vampires are so easy to kill but Dracula keeps coming back?

They're looking to return Drac to the top spot for the same reason the
U.S. often works to keep petty-but-unambitious tyrants in power in
various potential geopolitical powder-kegs: every other likely
alternative is much worse.

And other vamps could come back. It's just that no one cares to go
through all the rigamarole necessary to do so for most of 'em.

> Why is this book $3.99? They didn't exactly hire a top artist.
> (Sorry Paco.)

Issue 1 had 30 pages of editorial content. Yes, only 22 of those pages
were story (the rest were text and previews), but it counts just the
same. I can't excuse issue 2; 23 pages of story plus a text page and a
preview is a sin. But it's a sin more and more Marvel books are
committing every month without also making the extra-pages indulgence, so
best get used to it. <shrug>

> What's next? X-Men versus Harry Potters? So it's mutants against
> muggles.
>
>

Zombies. X-Men versus zombies. Because Marvel, that's why.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:25 pm
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grinningdemon wrote in


> I'm a little
> surprised Kyle & Yost aren't writing it since their X-Force run just
> wrapped up.
>

Both got busy with their day jobs for the next year or so (Kyle with the
THOR flick, Yost with the ramp-up of the Disney XD effort, the EARTH'S
MIGHTIEST HEROES show in particular), so neither is doing any steady
comics work for now.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:25 pm
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:01:17 GMT, YKW wrote:

>grinningdemon wrote in
>
>
>> I'm a little
>> surprised Kyle & Yost aren't writing it since their X-Force run just
>> wrapped up.
>>
>
>Both got busy with their day jobs for the next year or so (Kyle with the
>THOR flick, Yost with the ramp-up of the Disney XD effort, the EARTH'S
>MIGHTIEST HEROES show in particular), so neither is doing any steady
>comics work for now.

Too bad...I'd like to see them on a core x-book...or else a revived
New X-Men series.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:25 pm
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grinningdemon wrote in


>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:01:17 GMT, YKW wrote:
>
>>grinningdemon wrote in
>>
>>
>>> I'm a little
>>> surprised Kyle & Yost aren't writing it since their X-Force run just
>>> wrapped up.
>>>
>>
>>Both got busy with their day jobs for the next year or so (Kyle with
>>the THOR flick, Yost with the ramp-up of the Disney XD effort, the
>>EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES show in particular), so neither is doing any
>>steady comics work for now.
>
> Too bad...I'd like to see them on a core x-book...or else a revived
> New X-Men series.
>

Yost =is= doing a storyline to be serialized in an upcoming four-issue
X-Men anthology series, but it's one he says he's pitched "for years", so
who knows how moldy -that- is. (He's also packaged a handful of short-
length stories set in the EMH-verse to run under his byline at the end of
the year; as the show-runner, though, how much of that is actually coming
from =him= is highly debatable.)

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:37 pm
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:09:47 GMT, YKW wrote:

>grinningdemon wrote in
>
>
>>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:01:17 GMT, YKW wrote:
>>
>>>grinningdemon wrote in
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm a little
>>>> surprised Kyle & Yost aren't writing it since their X-Force run just
>>>> wrapped up.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Both got busy with their day jobs for the next year or so (Kyle with
>>>the THOR flick, Yost with the ramp-up of the Disney XD effort, the
>>>EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES show in particular), so neither is doing any
>>>steady comics work for now.
>>
>> Too bad...I'd like to see them on a core x-book...or else a revived
>> New X-Men series.
>>
>
>Yost =is= doing a storyline to be serialized in an upcoming four-issue
>X-Men anthology series, but it's one he says he's pitched "for years", so
>who knows how moldy -that- is. (He's also packaged a handful of short-
>length stories set in the EMH-verse to run under his byline at the end of
>the year; as the show-runner, though, how much of that is actually coming
>from =him= is highly debatable.)

He's not all that great on his own anyway...kind of like
Abnett/Lanning...the team is greater than the sum of its parts.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:26 am
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grinningdemon wrote in


>>Yost =is= doing a storyline to be serialized in an upcoming four-issue
>>X-Men anthology series, but it's one he says he's pitched "for years",
>>so who knows how moldy -that- is. (He's also packaged a handful of
>>short- length stories set in the EMH-verse to run under his byline at
>>the end of the year; as the show-runner, though, how much of that is
>>actually coming from =him= is highly debatable.)
>
> He's not all that great on his own anyway...kind of like
> Abnett/Lanning...the team is greater than the sum of its parts.

His RED ROBIN was fun, moreso than I'd really expected. Dunno if he does
any better on his own than DnA; other than some inks, I don't recall the
last time I saw either of them work solo.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:26 am
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:11:43 GMT, YKW wrote:

>grinningdemon wrote in
>
>
>>>Yost =is= doing a storyline to be serialized in an upcoming four-issue
>>>X-Men anthology series, but it's one he says he's pitched "for years",
>>>so who knows how moldy -that- is. (He's also packaged a handful of
>>>short- length stories set in the EMH-verse to run under his byline at
>>>the end of the year; as the show-runner, though, how much of that is
>>>actually coming from =him= is highly debatable.)
>>
>> He's not all that great on his own anyway...kind of like
>> Abnett/Lanning...the team is greater than the sum of its parts.
>
>His RED ROBIN was fun, moreso than I'd really expected. Dunno if he does
>any better on his own than DnA; other than some inks, I don't recall the
>last time I saw either of them work solo.

Red Robin was decent...it and Batgirl are the only batbooks I'm
following until Batman comes back...but Yost has also done a few X-Men
minis and one-shots solo and I wasn't impressed...they were mediocre
at best...as for DnA, I seem to recall Abnett doing some Legends of
the Dark Knight arcs on his own back in the day and they were pretty
lame...but virtually everything he's written with Lanning has been
excellent...from Legion to Majestic to the current Marvel cosmic
stuff.
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