Moving ABML to the Rec Hierarchy?

"Anne Elizabeth Baldwin" <anneb @ aloha . net> wrote in message
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> "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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>> Edna wrote:
>>> Okay, this is weird. I was looking around the rec.arts.* hierarchy, to
>>> see what was there, and lo and behold, I found something called
>>> rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey. Does anyone else see this in their list of
>>> newsgroups?
>>>
>>> Edna
>>
>> Well... dang. I'm going to try cross-posting this email message to
>> rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey -- a check for "live"ness.
>>
>> Hmmmm.
>
> Doing the same to reply. I see you on both HawaiianTel and HOL. So
> messages do make the rounds where it's carried. {smile}
>
> I don't even see the group on Google, tho. Nor do I see it on the
> official Big-8 list. {small smile}
>

At least Comcast / Giganews carries this AND ABML for now at least!
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"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>> "Edna" <huelsenbeck DeleteThis @gmailDOT.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>Okay, this is weird. I was looking around the rec.arts.* hierarchy, to
>>>see what was there, and lo and behold, I found something called
>>>rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey. Does anyone else see this in their list of
>>>newsgroups?
>>
>> I see it on HOL/aloha.net, and on HawaiianTel. However, it's not on
>> Google groups, nor on the list of official Big-8 groups. {pause}
>>
>> I seem to remember that it got involved in some wag's bogus
>> propagation messages towards the end of our RFD. Cancel messages were
>> sent out, but not every news carrier is good about acknowledging those, I
>> guess. {smile}
>>
>> I think if we want truly widespread access to it, we'll still need to
>> go thru the process to make it official. {Smile}
>
> sigh. And having it already set up would have saved paperwork...
>
> If we move, that is. I'm trying to keep a mental tally to see if we
> "lose" anyone. So far... I don't thiiiink so.
>
So far Comcast / Giganews has both groups and propagation to both doesn't
seem to be a problem, here in Michigan anyway. If the move has to come (for
the US contingent anyway), then hopefully it will be fairly transparent.
But then there ARE various off shore news servers available.
http://www.newzbot.com/ is just ONE searchable listing of servers.
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"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>> "Edna" <huelsenbeck.TakeThisOut@gmailDOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:huelsenbeck-3ECAF3.16294625062008@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>>
Just a quick follow-up, here is what I found with a search for "m-lackey" in
the newzbot search window:

http://www.newzbot.com/search.php?q=alt.books.m-lackey

A farily decent listing, although most of the servers listed DO have their
faults.

>
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"Lurker@The.Threshold" <jamhpp RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Aaron Kemtek" <kemtek.1 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 24, 7:38 pm, "Joe Morris" <j.c.mor... RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Barry Ruck" <barry.r... RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> > To be absoluitly honest, this only affects US ISPs.
>>
>
> For NOW this is true. Will it be so next year? Sorry, my foresight is
> on the fritz!

Actually, both Mummy Az and Dave that it isn't true only in the US.
Australia is currently having trouble, too, and Australia's problem is
affecting New Zealand as well. {half-smile}

> Disadvantage: I doubt they would let us name the group
> rec.arts.books.by.lackey so our name could officially be RABBL.
>
> Now THAT is a name that fits!

I agree. {BIG SMILE, REALLY BIG GRIN}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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"Lurker@The.Threshold" <jamhpp RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I see yours and Anne's posts but no spam for coffin nails! Those MIGHT be
>old posts, and I've held a subscription open on this group for quite a
>while, just in case somebody posted something interesting!

You're right. The assorted spam is about 3-4 years old, give or take a
few months. So I'm not surprised if you don't see it. {Smile}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin


> "Barry Ruck" <barry.ruck RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] formulated the question :
>>> Edna wrote:
>>>> Okay, this is weird. I was looking around the rec.arts.* hierarchy, to
>>>> see what was there, and lo and behold, I found something called
>>>> rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey. Does anyone else see this in their list
>>>> of newsgroups?
>>>>
>>>> Edna
>>>
>>> Well... dang. I'm going to try cross-posting this email message to
>>> rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey -- a check for "live"ness.
>>>
>>> Hmmmm.
>>
>> Well it propogates, but only one of my news servers carry the group, and
>> it's not individual.net !
>>
>> Nothing here exept cigarrette SPAM
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Reality is what you bump into in the dark. - Raymond E. Feist
>>
>> Barry Ruck - Harlow, Essex. UK.
>>
>>
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"Lurker@The.Threshold" <jamhpp.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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>> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>>> "Edna" <huelsenbeck.TakeThisOut@gmailDOT.com> wrote in message
>>> news:huelsenbeck-3ECAF3.16294625062008@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>>>
>>>>Okay, this is weird. I was looking around the rec.arts.* hierarchy, to
>>>>see what was there, and lo and behold, I found something called
>>>>rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey. Does anyone else see this in their list
>>>>of
>>>>newsgroups?
>>>
>>> I see it on HOL/aloha.net, and on HawaiianTel. However, it's not on
>>> Google groups, nor on the list of official Big-8 groups. {pause}
>>>
>>> I seem to remember that it got involved in some wag's bogus
>>> propagation messages towards the end of our RFD. Cancel messages were
>>> sent out, but not every news carrier is good about acknowledging those,
>>> I
>>> guess. {smile}
>>>
>>> I think if we want truly widespread access to it, we'll still need
>>> to go thru the process to make it official. {Smile}
>>
>> sigh. And having it already set up would have saved paperwork...
>>
>> If we move, that is. I'm trying to keep a mental tally to see if we
>> "lose" anyone. So far... I don't thiiiink so.
>>
> So far Comcast / Giganews has both groups and propagation to both doesn't
> seem
> to be a problem, here in Michigan anyway. If the move has to come (for
> the US contingent anyway), then hopefully it will be fairly transparent.
> But then there ARE various off shore news servers available.
> http://www.newzbot.com/ is just ONE searchable listing of servers.

Thanks. I'll have to check those out. {Smile}

Currently I don't have a problem. However, I'd rather get a few
alternatives lined up now, when I have no reason to be upset. If I can
avoid a frantic hunt for a new news server because ABML has disappeared
from mine, I'd really prefer to. {BIG SMILE}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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"Anne Elizabeth Baldwin" <anneb @ aloha . net> wrote:
> "Lurker@The.Threshold" <jamhpp DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Disadvantage: I doubt they would let us name the group
>> rec.arts.books.by.lackey so our name could officially be RABBL.
>>
>> Now THAT is a name that fits!

Serious suggestion: why not try to register that name? If we note that the
"obvious" name was poached by someone and is still on some NSP systems a
rogue group, we ought to use a different name, and I doubt that the
application process expects us to include a pronouncer for the initials.

Joe Morris
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"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Anne Elizabeth Baldwin" <anneb @ aloha . net> wrote:
>> "Lurker@The.Threshold" <jamhpp.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Disadvantage: I doubt they would let us name the group
>>> rec.arts.books.by.lackey so our name could officially be RABBL.
>>>
>>> Now THAT is a name that fits!
>
> Serious suggestion: why not try to register that name? If we note that
> the
> "obvious" name was poached by someone and is still on some NSP systems a
> rogue group, we ought to use a different name, and I doubt that the
> application process expects us to include a pronouncer for the initials.
>
> Joe Morris

{pause}

That really would be neat. {Smile} We might as well try. The worst they
can do is say "no." {SMILE}

You're right. We are stuck in that the name they wanted us to have is
now taken by a rogue. Since we can't use that, we might as well see if we
can use that to get a name we'd like better. {BIG SMILE}

"Poached" is a very good word for that. I believe that was never a
legitimate group. {Smile}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:24:00 -0700, m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Well... dang. I'm going to try cross-posting this email message
> to rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey -- a check for "live"ness.

Seems live to me!

Might be a good idea to move over here, or at least start crossposting
everything, given that some ISPs are beginning to drop the "alt" hierarchy.

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Posted only to abm-l

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:40:46 GMT, Robotech_Master stomped through
my brain with:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:24:00 -0700, m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Well... dang. I'm going to try cross-posting this email message
>> to rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey -- a check for "live"ness.
>
>Seems live to me!
>
>Might be a good idea to move over here, or at least start crossposting
>everything, given that some ISPs are beginning to drop the "alt" hierarchy.

There is a problem. The bnb-lp server that I use for new reading
does not carry the rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey group.

So... that means it is probably not 100% totally distributed to
all news servers so we'd still have the same problem. <shrug>

Ah, well.
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"Robotech_Master" <robotech.TakeThisOut@eyrie.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:24:00 -0700, m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Well... dang. I'm going to try cross-posting this email message
>> to rec.arts.sf.written.m-lackey -- a check for "live"ness.
>
> Seems live to me!

Sort of. The servers that get it seem to be good at picking up posts.
However, not all servers carry it. Somebody suggested it's a "rogue," a
group that's been cancelled, but is still carried by some servers that are
better at picking up new groups, than at dropping non-legit ones. {small
smile}

> Might be a good idea to move over here, or at least start crossposting
> everything, given that some ISPs are beginning to drop the "alt"
> hierarchy.

I'd like to see that, but someone said there could be a problems with
trying to use a name that has been cancelled. {pause}

Who wants to see what they'd let us name a new group instead? I'm still
intrigued by the proposal to try for rec.arts.books.by.lackey because the
"obvious" name isn't really available. {SMILE}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin


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