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Rasmus Paulsen

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:50 pm
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So I was listening to Night Watch on audio, and the after scene where
Vimes is talking to Madame Vetinari is revealed to be standing in the
room. In the book he says that Keel would have seen him had he just been
more aware (or something to that effect).
But in the audio version V. says Vimes instead of Keel... Have anybody
noticed this? And is it in every version of the audio.

It kind of made me laugh. I mean Vetinari has always been uncanny in his
way of knowing just one extra fact, but this was just great. I never new
he was that cool, to be able to see into the future. Smile

And if this has already been talked to death, I'm sorry. Just wanted to
mention it. It really made an otherwise boring day a bit brighter.

/Rasmus

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dicconf

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:38 am
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Rasmus Paulsen wrote:
>So I was listening to Night Watch on audio, and the after scene where
>Vimes is talking to Madame, Vetinari is revealed to be standing in the
>room. In the book he says that Keel would have seen him had he just
>been more aware (or something to that effect).
>But in the audio version V. says Vimes instead of Keel... Have anybody
>noticed this? And is it in every version of the audio.

Good question (I don't get the audio copies). I hope somebody has
fixed it by now; with so much being done on computer, it shouldn't
be too expensive to do (unlike a similar fix for print errors, which
is apparently so expensive that only the most disastrous ones are
changed - including that one).

That error was in the American pre-release review copy (one of the
few that I've seen). It was corrected in the official American
first print edition.

So that means the audio versions are made from the review copies
in order to be can be released at the same time as the printed
books. I wonder whether all the audio versions are from the
review copies, and how many times changes have been made at
that late point in the process.

>It kind of made me laugh. I mean Vetinari has always been uncanny
>in his way of knowing just one extra fact, but this was just great.
>I never knew he was that cool, to be able to see into the future. Smile

It might have been, but I think it would have screwed up the story
for him to know that much in advance. He doesn't put it all together
(if he ever really does) until the end of NW.

=Tamar

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Len Oil

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:00 am
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Richard Eney wrote:
> So that means the audio versions are made from the review copies
> in order to be can be released at the same time as the printed
> books. I wonder whether all the audio versions are from the
> review copies, and how many times changes have been made at
> that late point in the process.

I'm not sure about the earliest books, but the schedule of the newer
books (going on half-remembered comments from Stephen about
as-yet-unreleased books, and backed up by a guess about the relative
release times) definitely seems to deal with the recording more or less
alongside the final run-up to actual shop-release, which would slightly
pre-date any such "oopsies" that the get caught only through the efforts
of the reading community.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:01 pm
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:38:39 -0000, dicconf.DeleteThis@radix.net (Richard Eney)
wrote:

>It might have been, but I think it would have screwed up the story
>for him to know that much in advance. He doesn't put it all together
>(if he ever really does) until the end of NW.

He admits as much:

[Vimes] "You knew? You bloody well knew, didn't you?"

"Not until, oh, one second ago," said Vetinari.

Of course, he may have been lying.

That raises an interesting question - have we ever caught Vetinari in
a lie? Half-truths and misdirection, perhaps, but I can't recall an
occasion where he actually lies. I suppose it would make the game too
simple.

Regards

Doug Urquhart
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Rasmus Paulsen

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:01 am
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Richard Eney skrev:

SNIP!

>> It kind of made me laugh. I mean Vetinari has always been uncanny
>> in his way of knowing just one extra fact, but this was just great.
>> I never knew he was that cool, to be able to see into the future. Smile
>
> It might have been, but I think it would have screwed up the story
> for him to know that much in advance. He doesn't put it all together
> (if he ever really does) until the end of NW.
>
> =Tamar

It would certainly screw up the story. It's just really funny that an
error changes the premises for the story. I'm just glad I've read the
book enough times to spot it.
And I think he puts it together. I just think he understands, like Lawn
eventually does, that memory is a tricky thing and not always a good
thing to comment upon.

/Rasmus
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