name of that Orc in LOTR

Joseph wrote:
 > What is the name of that Orc who says that line that goes like "The
 > era of the human has ended" (something like that)


To reveal this I am quite loth,
Though some do say that the name was Sloth,
It must have been Gothmog, the Balrog trainee,
Who taught wingless Balrogs to fall with a "Wheeee!"

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On 7 Feb 2005 13:03:05 -0800, "Joseph" wrote:

 >What is the name of that Orc who says that line that goes like "The era
 >of the human has ended" (something like that)

His name is "Jacksonia' -- no such line appears eveywhere in the book.


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the softrat <softrat RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:


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  > >What is the name of that Orc who says that line that goes like "The era
  > >of the human has ended" (something like that)
 >
 > His name is "Jacksonia' -- no such line appears eveywhere in the book.

Regardless, the orc who says it in the film is Gothmog.

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  >>What is the name of that Orc who says that line that goes like "The
era of the human has ended" (something like that)


Although this isn't actually given in the published version of the
text, in earlier drafts of the chapter we can see JRRT's ideas for his
name. The relevant passage is in HoME XIII p341ff where we can see him
trying and then rejecting the names Ogrok, Shagrug, Baghdad and Betty.

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jere7my tho?rpe wrote:



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  > >
   > > >What is the name of that Orc who says that line that goes like "The era
   > > >of the human has ended" (something like that)
  > >
  > > His name is "Jacksonia' -- no such line appears eveywhere in the book.
 >
 > Regardless, the orc who says it in the film is Gothmog.
 >
 >

If it looks like a hemorrhoid, and it smells like a hemorrhoid, it must be a
hemorrhoid. I always called him Hemi.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 > If it looks like a hemorrhoid, and it smells like a hemorrhoid, it must be
a
 > hemorrhoid. I always called him Hemi.

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Joseph wrote:
 > What is the name of that Orc who says that line that goes like "The era
 > of the human has ended" (something like that)
 >
Never happened. It's just a lame-o Jackson screw-up. The very concept
is a
screw-up, since humans are on the rise throughout Tolkien's works.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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