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Anne Elizabeth Baldwin

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:36 pm
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"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
> <nerve endings in body parts>
>
>>>But I did get the impression, from that, that the hands alone have more
>>>nerve endings than the whole arms. Nerve ending density is *not*
>>>proportional to skin surface area.
>>
>> Yeah, that sounds about right. {rueful look at still-bandaged finger}
>>
>> I notice that also when a nurse takes a blood sample for blood sugar
>> monitoring. The fingers are a really bad place for pain, and the hand
>> isn't
>> much better. Unfortunately, I'm usually sensitive there. They don't
>> believe
>> HOW MUCH worse it is for me until I tell them it's finally stopped
>> hurting continuously half an hour later. I just wish I was exaggerating.
>> {wry look}
>>
>> Well, no. I also wish there were more body parts where they could find
>> a
>> hair-free spot to take a sample from. {wry smile}
>
> I miss the days when the person testing iron levels, before blood
> donation, was allowed to do so with a blood drop from the earlobe.
> Earlobes are relatively low in nerve endings. Regrettably, it seems that
> location skews the iron level estimation, so they are back to whacking a
> sharp point into a fingertip to test iron levels. ow.

Yes, "ow." Very ow. {wry smile}

> Fortunately for me, I'm not as sensitive as you are! I might never
> donate blood, if I were.

I don't donate blood for other reasons, but that would be less of a
problem for me. For that, they could do my arm, and my arm isn't bad. They
can stick my arm deep enough to draw blood without making it hurt too long.
It's just on the hand where any prick deep enough for the sample hurts for
entirely too long. {wry smile}

> Hair-free spots... well, yes, we are mammals. Palms of hands, bottoms of
> feet, and that's about it for any guarantee of hair-free. Face, for
> females, but I don't imagine you'd enjoy a prick on the cheek any more
> than a prick on the hand.

{Pause} They might be able to get it from my forehead, but the only
reason I don't have hair on my cheek is an electric shaver. Fortunately,
that does save from being a bearded woman. {Amused Smile}


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(Msg. 47) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:20 am
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>>>>> I sliced the tip of my middle finger
>>>>> a couple of weeks ago, and I have no idea how it happened. I was on my
>>>>> way out the door, and tried to check something on my laptop on the way
>>>>> out. (The trackpad doesn't work if your finger is pouring blood all over
>>>>> it.) The sharpest thing I had used in the previous five minutes was a
>>>>> butter knife to spread some mayo on a sandwich!
>>>> {WINCE} I hope your finger got better quickly! {sympathetic smile}
>>> It did heal pretty quickly, although I went through a lot of Band-Aids
>>> during that week. (Even the "waterproof" bandages don't really stand up
>>> to handwashing when they're on the tip of a finger.)
>>>
>>> Edna
>> And if you are the designated (manual) dishwasher, you learn the sound
>> of one hand washing, if not that of one hand clapping.
>
> Rubber gloves. Smile
>
> Edna

Gloves are better than nothing, but since I have to wear them very
frequently at work, for chemical and/or radioactivity reasons, I know
that hands sweat in gloves.

When I used gloves for dishes with a bad finger boo-boo the sweat was
exasperated by the warm/hot water, more than enough to remove a
"waterproof" bandage, and add salty sweat to the wound.

For me, one handed was easier.

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(Msg. 48) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:20 am
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"Aaron" <kemtek.1.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> I sliced the tip of my middle finger
>>>>>> a couple of weeks ago, and I have no idea how it happened. I was on
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> way out the door, and tried to check something on my laptop on the
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> (The trackpad doesn't work if your finger is pouring blood all over
>>>>>> it.) The sharpest thing I had used in the previous five minutes was a
>>>>>> butter knife to spread some mayo on a sandwich!
>>>>>
>>>>> {WINCE} I hope your finger got better quickly! {sympathetic smile}
>>>>>
>>>> It did heal pretty quickly, although I went through a lot of Band-Aids
>>>> during that week. (Even the "waterproof" bandages don't really stand up
>>>> to handwashing when they're on the tip of a finger.)
>>>>
>>>> Edna
>>> And if you are the designated (manual) dishwasher, you learn the sound
>>> of one hand washing, if not that of one hand clapping.
>>
>> Rubber gloves. Smile
>>
>> Edna
>
> Gloves are better than nothing, but since I have to wear them very
> frequently at work, for chemical and/or radioactivity reasons, I know that
> hands sweat in gloves.
>
> When I used gloves for dishes with a bad finger boo-boo the sweat was
> exasperated by the warm/hot water, more than enough to remove a
> "waterproof" bandage, and add salty sweat to the wound.

{Wince}

> For me, one handed was easier.

And much less painful, I'm sure. {sympathetic smile} At least it sounds
like it to me! {Smile}


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(Msg. 49) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:34 am
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<snip>
> I notice that also when a nurse takes a blood sample for blood sugar
> monitoring. The fingers are a really bad place for pain, and the hand isn't
> much better. Unfortunately, I'm usually sensitive there. They don't believe
> HOW MUCH worse it is for me until I tell them it's finally stopped hurting
> continuously half an hour later. I just wish I was exaggerating. {wry look}
>
> Well, no. I also wish there were more body parts where they could find a
> hair-free spot to take a sample from. {wry smile}

Being diabetic I have to poke my finger(s) multiple times a day so
I have become sorta used to it. If you have to have a nurse poke you
relatively frequently, you might invest in your own lancing device and
get the newish ultrafine lancets. A coworker had a problem similar to
yours and when he discovered the ultrafines he could actually test as
needed; he was so sensitive to the pain that he was giving up on testing
until his doctor told him about them.

One example here:
http://www.bddiabetes.com/ca/english/main.aspx?cat=1002&id=1613
The higher the gauge number, the thinner the lancet.

As far as the second part, I am sure the Orangs can feel your
pain, so to speak. Smile

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(Msg. 50) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:34 am
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"Aaron" <kemtek.1.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>> I notice that also when a nurse takes a blood sample for blood sugar
>> monitoring. The fingers are a really bad place for pain, and the hand
>> isn't
>> much better. Unfortunately, I'm usually sensitive there. They don't
>> believe
>> HOW MUCH worse it is for me until I tell them it's finally stopped
>> hurting continuously half an hour later. I just wish I was exaggerating.
>> {wry look}
>>
>> Well, no. I also wish there were more body parts where they could find
>> a
>> hair-free spot to take a sample from. {wry smile}
>
> Being diabetic I have to poke my finger(s) multiple times a day so I
> have become sorta used to it.

I'm diabetic, too, tho we're still trying to do this without medication.
my doctor, Dad, and I don't think medication is the best idea when I can't
comfortably test myself. {small smile}

> If you have to have a nurse poke you relatively frequently, you might
> invest in your own lancing device and get the newish ultrafine lancets.

I don't know if that would work for me. Unfortunately, Mom gave me both
her tendency towards diabetes and her deep seated veins. With all the
lancets we've tried, if the prick is deep enough to get a sample, it's deep
enough hurt for half an hour continuous, plus another half hour to an hour
periodically. If it's deep enough to squeeze out a sample, the squeezing
plus the prick is enough to hurt for half an hour continuous, plus another
half hour to an hour periodically.

{Sigh} If I could prick myself on my arm, I'd be fine. My arm takes a
pretty deep prick, but it has enough fewer nerves, I'm fine 5-15 minutes
later. That I could stand. Unfortunately, my arm is too hairy to be
suitable. {wry smile}

> A coworker had a problem similar to yours and when he discovered the
> ultrafines he could actually test as needed; he was so sensitive to the
> pain that he was giving up on testing until his doctor told him about
> them.

> One example here:
> http://www.bddiabetes.com/ca/english/main.aspx?cat=1002&id=1613
> The higher the gauge number, the thinner the lancet.

I'll look into it. It's worth a try. I really would like to be able to be
able to test myself without the agony. {Smile}

> As far as the second part, I am sure the Orangs can feel your pain,
> so to speak. Smile

Yes, they would have a similar problem, wouldn't they? {Smile}


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(Msg. 51) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:01 am
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In article <lK2dnR1V0Mj6f5bVnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d DeleteThis @earthlink.com>,
"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
<"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Don Bruder wrote:
> > In article <kIidnYIiqOisLJbVnZ2dnUVZ_siknZ2d DeleteThis @earthlink.com>,
> > "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> > <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>guarantee of hair-free. Face, for females, but I don't
> >>imagine you'd enjoy a prick on the cheek any more than a
> >>prick on the hand.
> >
> >
> > OH, so many possibilities for reply, but just thinking about any of them
> > sent the PG-rating into convulsions...
> >
> > Smile
>
> <looks at post>
>
> <re-adjusts thinking for obvious naughty thoughts>
>
> <re-adjusts again, trying for less obvious>
>
> <enlightened>Ah!</enlightened>
>
> Geeeeez. You should wash that brain out with soap or something.
>
> :>

Sorry... couldn't help it - Had, just moments before reading the one I
replied to, come from a thread in another group that had turned into a
dirty punfight, so being in that frame of mind, and having that show up
just... Well... Any further explanation needed? Smile

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(Msg. 52) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:03 pm
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Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
> "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
>> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote in message
<blood tests>
>> Fortunately for me, I'm not as sensitive as you are!
>> I might never donate blood, if I were.
>
> I don't donate blood for other reasons, but that would be
> less of a problem for me. For that, they could do my arm,
> and my arm isn't bad. They can stick my arm deep enough
> to draw blood without making it hurt too long. It's just
> on the hand where any prick deep enough for the sample
> hurts for entirely too long. {wry smile}

Ah. Been a while since you gave blood, I guess. You missed
the full, needle-icious glory of the procedure. First they
whang you in the finger with a sharp point to extract blood
drops for the iron tests. Then, if you past the iron test,
you get the big jab in the arm.

So, you see, no escaping that jab in the finger that pains
your sensitive tippy tops so badly.

Fortunately for blood banks, not as bad for most folks.

Quite a few folks can't donate, for one reason or another.
I can hardly complain that keeping the blood supply healthy
is a bad idea!

>> Hair-free spots... well, yes, we are mammals. Palms of
>> hands, bottoms of feet, and that's about it for any
>> guarantee of hair-free. Face, for females, but I don't
>> imagine you'd enjoy a prick on the cheek any more than
>> a prick on the hand.
>
> {Pause} They might be able to get it from my forehead,
> but the only reason I don't have hair on my cheek is an
> electric shaver. Fortunately, that does save from being a
> bearded woman. {Amused Smile}

I did think of that ... but I figured it was better to
maintain the female illusion that facial hair never grows on
girls. A lot of women have gone to a lot of trouble to keep
that illusion going... :>

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(Msg. 53) Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:58 pm
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m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
[snip]
>
> Ah. Been a while since you gave blood, I guess. You missed the full,
> needle-icious glory of the procedure. First they whang you in the
> finger with a sharp point to extract blood drops for the iron tests.
> Then, if you past the iron test, you get the big jab in the arm.
>
> So, you see, no escaping that jab in the finger that pains your
> sensitive tippy tops so badly.
>
> Fortunately for blood banks, not as bad for most folks.
>
> Quite a few folks can't donate, for one reason or another. I can hardly
> complain that keeping the blood supply healthy is a bad idea!

Used to give every four months (maximum limit for women here...), since
I am O- and they are always needing that group.

But nothing compares to the pain of a spaghetti under the nail, I
promise. You do not want to try!!!

As for giving blood now, since I am pregnant, it is a no-no, and will be
for more than one year (during pregnancy + 12 months after it, I think).

Aphrael...

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(Msg. 54) Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:58 pm
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Aphrael wrote:
> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
> [snip]
>
>> Ah. Been a while since you gave blood, I guess. You missed the full,
>> needle-icious glory of the procedure. First they whang you in the
>> finger with a sharp point to extract blood drops for the iron tests.
>> Then, if you past the iron test, you get the big jab in the arm.
>>
>> So, you see, no escaping that jab in the finger that pains your
>> sensitive tippy tops so badly.
>>
>> Fortunately for blood banks, not as bad for most folks.
>>
>> Quite a few folks can't donate, for one reason or another. I can
>> hardly complain that keeping the blood supply healthy is a bad idea!
>
>
> Used to give every four months (maximum limit for women here...), since
> I am O- and they are always needing that group.

A "universal donor", eh? I'm almost a universal donor -- O+
instead of O-. Close enough.

> But nothing compares to the pain of a spaghetti under the nail, I
> promise. You do not want to try!!!

I'll take your word for it. :>

> As for giving blood now, since I am pregnant, it is a no-no, and will be
> for more than one year (during pregnancy + 12 months after it, I think).

"Are you pregnant?" is one of the standard questions on the
screening set of questions, so, yes, I think the pregnant
and recently pregnant are forbidden. Both for the health of
the baby/mother, and because your blood is just swamped with
hormones going every which way (more than the usual set!)
which might mess up the sick person who receives the blood.

For one, I imagine it might be possible that a female
receiver of a pregnant woman's blood might have her
non-pregnant system get fooled, temporarily, into thinking
she's pregnant. That would be confusing!

I'm not sure whether or how much of the hormones would get
filtered out during the processing steps for storing donated
blood. A question to pester the poor nurse with, next time
I'm at the blood bank.

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(Msg. 55) Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:30 pm
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"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>> "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
>> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> message
>>> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>>> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote in message
> <blood tests>
>>> Fortunately for me, I'm not as sensitive as you are!
>>> I might never donate blood, if I were.
>>
>> I don't donate blood for other reasons, but that would be
>> less of a problem for me. For that, they could do my arm,
>> and my arm isn't bad. They can stick my arm deep enough
>> to draw blood without making it hurt too long. It's just
>> on the hand where any prick deep enough for the sample
>> hurts for entirely too long. {wry smile}
>
> Ah. Been a while since you gave blood, I guess. You missed the full,
> needle-icious glory of the procedure. First they whang you in the finger
> with a sharp point to extract blood drops for the iron tests. Then, if
> you past the iron test, you get the big jab in the arm.
>
> So, you see, no escaping that jab in the finger that pains your sensitive
> tippy tops so badly.

Okay, yes. I wasn't aware of the full procedure. Between Dad's bad
fainting spell when he gave blood and my own quirks (anemia, allergies, and
a tendency to feel faint when just a few vials are taken), I've never felt
that giving blood was a wise idea for me. {lop-sided smile}

The finger prick problem does not inspire me try now. {Smile}

> Fortunately for blood banks, not as bad for most folks.

Very fortunately. {Smile}

> Quite a few folks can't donate, for one reason or another. I can hardly
> complain that keeping the blood supply healthy is a bad idea!

Very true. Keeping the blood supply healthy is a very good cause. {Smile}

>>> Hair-free spots... well, yes, we are mammals. Palms of
>>> hands, bottoms of feet, and that's about it for any
>>> guarantee of hair-free. Face, for females, but I don't
>>> imagine you'd enjoy a prick on the cheek any more than
>>> a prick on the hand.
>>
>> {Pause} They might be able to get it from my forehead,
>> but the only reason I don't have hair on my cheek is an
>> electric shaver. Fortunately, that does save from being a
>> bearded woman. {Amused Smile}
>
> I did think of that ... but I figured it was better to maintain the female
> illusion that facial hair never grows on girls. A lot of women have gone
> to a lot of trouble to keep that illusion going... :>

Yeah. I tried electrolysis before deciding the shaver was a better
approach, myself. {Smile, wink}


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"Aphrael" <aphrael.nospamplease.DeleteThis@isuisse.com> wrote in message
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> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Ah. Been a while since you gave blood, I guess. You missed the full,
>> needle-icious glory of the procedure. First they whang you in the finger
>> with a sharp point to extract blood drops for the iron tests. Then, if
>> you past the iron test, you get the big jab in the arm.
>>
>> So, you see, no escaping that jab in the finger that pains your sensitive
>> tippy tops so badly.
>>
>> Fortunately for blood banks, not as bad for most folks.
>>
>> Quite a few folks can't donate, for one reason or another. I can hardly
>> complain that keeping the blood supply healthy is a bad idea!
>
> Used to give every four months (maximum limit for women here...), since I
> am O- and they are always needing that group.
>
> But nothing compares to the pain of a spaghetti under the nail, I promise.
> You do not want to try!!!

Don't worry; I'll happily take your word for it! {SMILE}

> As for giving blood now, since I am pregnant, it is a no-no, and will be
> for more than one year (during pregnancy + 12 months after it, I think).

Boy, they have a lot of reasons for not letting folks give. I'm sure
they're good ideas - this one certainly sounds like it - but they sure have
a lot of reasons not to do it. {Smile}

Oh, and since I don't think I've had a chance to say so yet,
CONGRATULATIONS! and good luck with your pregnancy! {BIG SMILE}


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>> <snip>
>>> I notice that also when a nurse takes a blood sample for blood sugar
>>> monitoring. The fingers are a really bad place for pain, and the hand
>>> isn't
>>> much better. Unfortunately, I'm usually sensitive there. They don't
>>> believe
>>> HOW MUCH worse it is for me until I tell them it's finally stopped
>>> hurting continuously half an hour later. I just wish I was exaggerating.
>>> {wry look}
>>>
>>> Well, no. I also wish there were more body parts where they could find
>>> a
>>> hair-free spot to take a sample from. {wry smile}
>> Being diabetic I have to poke my finger(s) multiple times a day so I
>> have become sorta used to it.
>
> I'm diabetic, too, tho we're still trying to do this without medication.
> my doctor, Dad, and I don't think medication is the best idea when I can't
> comfortably test myself. {small smile}

Actually, last time I saw my endocrinologist she took me off my daily
insulin shot, but doubled my pre-meal Symlin dose (and I still take oral
meds). My fasting number has yet to go too high, my control is actually
better, and no 'too lows'.

>> If you have to have a nurse poke you relatively frequently, you might
>> invest in your own lancing device and get the newish ultrafine lancets.
>
> I don't know if that would work for me. Unfortunately, Mom gave me both
> her tendency towards diabetes and her deep seated veins. With all the
> lancets we've tried, if the prick is deep enough to get a sample, it's deep
> enough hurt for half an hour continuous, plus another half hour to an hour
> periodically. If it's deep enough to squeeze out a sample, the squeezing
> plus the prick is enough to hurt for half an hour continuous, plus another
> half hour to an hour periodically.
>
> {Sigh} If I could prick myself on my arm, I'd be fine. My arm takes a
> pretty deep prick, but it has enough fewer nerves, I'm fine 5-15 minutes
> later. That I could stand. Unfortunately, my arm is too hairy to be
> suitable. {wry smile}
>
>> A coworker had a problem similar to yours and when he discovered the
>> ultrafines he could actually test as needed; he was so sensitive to the
>> pain that he was giving up on testing until his doctor told him about
>> them.
>
>> One example here:
>> http://www.bddiabetes.com/ca/english/main.aspx?cat=1002&id=1613
>> The higher the gauge number, the thinner the lancet.
>
> I'll look into it. It's worth a try. I really would like to be able to be
> able to test myself without the agony. {Smile}

Every time I see them in the pharmacy, I forget which brand/model I
have. When I have it in front of I am not at the pharmacy. It's all in
the timing.

>> As far as the second part, I am sure the Orangs can feel your pain,
>> so to speak. Smile
>
> Yes, they would have a similar problem, wouldn't they? {Smile}

Or would that be a simian problem?

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"Aaron" <kemtek.1 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> <snip>
>>>> I notice that also when a nurse takes a blood sample for blood sugar
>>>> monitoring. The fingers are a really bad place for pain, and the hand
>>>> isn't
>>>> much better. Unfortunately, I'm usually sensitive there. They don't
>>>> believe
>>>> HOW MUCH worse it is for me until I tell them it's finally stopped
>>>> hurting continuously half an hour later. I just wish I was
>>>> exaggerating. {wry look}
>>>>
>>>> Well, no. I also wish there were more body parts where they could
>>>> find
>>>> a
>>>> hair-free spot to take a sample from. {wry smile}
>>> Being diabetic I have to poke my finger(s) multiple times a day so
>>> I have become sorta used to it.
>>
>> I'm diabetic, too, tho we're still trying to do this without
>> medication.
>> my doctor, Dad, and I don't think medication is the best idea when I
>> can't comfortably test myself. {small smile}
>
> Actually, last time I saw my endocrinologist she took me off my daily
> insulin shot, but doubled my pre-meal Symlin dose (and I still take oral
> meds). My fasting number has yet to go too high, my control is actually
> better, and no 'too lows'.
>
>>> If you have to have a nurse poke you relatively frequently, you might
>>> invest in your own lancing device and get the newish ultrafine lancets.
>>
>> I don't know if that would work for me. Unfortunately, Mom gave me
>> both her tendency towards diabetes and her deep seated veins. With all
>> the lancets we've tried, if the prick is deep enough to get a sample,
>> it's deep
>> enough hurt for half an hour continuous, plus another half hour to an
>> hour periodically. If it's deep enough to squeeze out a sample, the
>> squeezing plus the prick is enough to hurt for half an hour continuous,
>> plus another half hour to an hour periodically.
>>
>> {Sigh} If I could prick myself on my arm, I'd be fine. My arm takes a
>> pretty deep prick, but it has enough fewer nerves, I'm fine 5-15 minutes
>> later. That I could stand. Unfortunately, my arm is too hairy to be
>> suitable. {wry smile}
>>
>>> A coworker had a problem similar to yours and when he discovered the
>>> ultrafines he could actually test as needed; he was so sensitive to the
>>> pain that he was giving up on testing until his doctor told him about
>>> them.
>>
>>> One example here:
>>> http://www.bddiabetes.com/ca/english/main.aspx?cat=1002&id=1613
>>> The higher the gauge number, the thinner the lancet.
>>
>> I'll look into it. It's worth a try. I really would like to be able to
>> be able to test myself without the agony. {Smile}
>
> Every time I see them in the pharmacy, I forget which brand/model I have.
> When I have it in front of I am not at the pharmacy. It's all in the
> timing.

That would complicate things. I'm not sure how that would factor in when
I'm using the doctor's stuff, tho. {Smile}

>>> As far as the second part, I am sure the Orangs can feel your pain,
>>> so to speak. Smile
>>
>> Yes, they would have a similar problem, wouldn't they? {Smile}
>
> Or would that be a simian problem?

{chuckle} That too. {Smile}

> (I know, simian, yes; problem, no.)
> (Some puns just beg for the telling.)

Of course they do. {Smile}


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Megan wrote:
> Purrt wrote:
>> Yup, good old fashioned clay. That's what's about 6"
>> down in my entire lot. Just 6" of goodish dirt and then
>> clay. We're doing a lot of digging and roto-tilling.
>> And mulching.
>
> I've thought of roto-tilling. But I'd have to plant immediately
> whatever got tilled, and I don't buy plants in big groups.

Neither do I. We just till it then plant as needed.

> Doubt I could fit a roto-tiller in my car, anyway. Though, hey, if
> you got one into your Miata...

Actually, that's why we have a MSV - a Miata Support Vehicle - for
items that will not fit in the baby car. Our current MSV is a 2004
Volvo wagon.
..
>> We've been doing the same for 5 years now. Most of the
>> front is done - except now I have to dig up all the bulbs
>> and separate them.
>
> My front yard is actually tolerable; the prior owners didn't let it
> deteriorate to "Yard a la Vacant Lot" they way they did the back.
> I'm just trying to de-lawn it, since lawns aren't appropriate for
> California weather.
>
> Errr. And I have plants in front, that are bulb-based, but I'm a
> bit hazy on care-for-bulbs. I suspect some kind of digging and
> splitting is probably called for... just not sure how to do it. Or
> where to put any spare bulbs that result from the process. Or when
> to do it. (Winter? Spring? After blooming? Before?)

Bulbs should be lifted after the greens are mostly dead and when your
plants aren't blooming as much as they used to. I usually let bulbs
sit in the open for a day or two then clean off the dirt and put them
in brown paper bags before storing in the basement. Cool and dry is
the secret. Then around September or October, they go back into the
ground. I have to lift and separate almost the entire main front bed
this year. I did the two smaller front ones last year.

> Must Google sometime. In all my spare time.
>
>> The back yard... that's a whole 'nother story.
>> Particularly since we lost two 60-70 foot tall trees to
>> high winds in March.
>
> Whoops. I hope they didn't land on anything you actually liked!

The one that snapped off put a hole about the size of a dime in the
siding on the shed. The other uprooted itself and came down in the
only part of the yard where it hit absolutely nothing. Except the
poor lawn. If it had fallen even 10 degrees northward, it would have
taken out my sun room, part of the master bedroom, the neighbor's
bedroom and the power lines. We were *very* lucky.

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"Purrt" <ivaf.TakeThisOut@ptd.net> wrote in message
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> Megan wrote:
>> Purrt wrote:
>>> Yup, good old fashioned clay. That's what's about 6"
>>> down in my entire lot. Just 6" of goodish dirt and then
>>> clay. We're doing a lot of digging and roto-tilling.
>>> And mulching.
>>
>> I've thought of roto-tilling. But I'd have to plant immediately whatever
>> got tilled, and I don't buy plants in big groups.
>
> Neither do I. We just till it then plant as needed.
>
>> Doubt I could fit a roto-tiller in my car, anyway. Though, hey, if you
>> got one into your Miata...
>
> Actually, that's why we have a MSV - a Miata Support Vehicle - for items
> that will not fit in the baby car. Our current MSV is a 2004 Volvo wagon.

{BIG GRIN} Now 'MSV' is one acronym I like! {BIG SMILE, REALLY BIG GRIN}

<snip bulb-planting>

>> Must Google sometime. In all my spare time.
>>
>>> The back yard... that's a whole 'nother story.
>>> Particularly since we lost two 60-70 foot tall trees to
>>> high winds in March.
>>
>> Whoops. I hope they didn't land on anything you actually liked!
>
> The one that snapped off put a hole about the size of a dime in the siding
> on the shed. The other uprooted itself and came down in the only part of
> the yard where it hit absolutely nothing. Except the poor lawn. If it
> had fallen even 10 degrees northward, it would have taken out my sun room,
> part of the master bedroom, the neighbor's bedroom and the power lines. We
> were *very* lucky.

{steadying breath} Yes, that was lucky! {SMILE} I'm glad those trees
chose such good places to fall down! {BIG SMILE, REALLY BIG GRIN}


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