Prince Caspian Spoilers

Garondo Marondo wrote:

> Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?

Except for "My NAME is..." Philip.

(And yes, they may possibly want to make "Horse & His Boy", as soon as
the Lucy and Susan actresses reach their twenties...)

Derek Janssen
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laraine wrote:

> On Jun 9, 11:49 am, Garondo Marondo <Classic.Mr.H....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
>
>
> I guess these are Telmarine horses (originally
> from earth). Narnian horses do talk in at least
> one other book.
>
> I had been worried about how they would
> present the 'evil' dark-skinned Telmarines,
> but I think it came off reasonably well. They
> had Spanish(?)-sounding accents, and were
> pretty good-looking with attractive costumes,
> and the fact that Caspian was a Telmarine was
> continually emphasized.

The "evil dark-skinned" characters were Calormenes, and didn't show up
until the later books--

Telmarines were simply descended from pirates, so it seemed logical to
make them from the Spanish Main.

Derek Janssen
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Garondo Marondo wrote:

>>
>>>Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
>>
>>Except for "My NAME is..." Philip.
>
>
> Was that in the first film? It rings a bell. I only saw it once and
> I've never read any of the books.

The LWW line was Shrek-ish enough to be an off-book Adamson creation--
But as we see the older King Edmund still riding Sir Philip, it serves a
good one-moment explanation of how Narnian horses still consider
themselves with as much of a job to do as the bipedal creatures.

Derek Janssen (and btw, which group is correct?: CS-Dash-Lewis, or Dot?)
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Derek Janssen wrote:

> Garondo Marondo wrote:
>
> >>
> >>>Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
> >>
> >>Except for "My NAME is..." Philip.
> >
> >
> > Was that in the first film? It rings a bell. I only saw it once and
> > I've never read any of the books.
>
> The LWW line was Shrek-ish enough to be an off-book Adamson creation--
> But as we see the older King Edmund still riding Sir Philip, it serves a
> good one-moment explanation of how Narnian horses still consider
> themselves with as much of a job to do as the bipedal creatures.
>
> Derek Janssen (and btw, which group is correct?: CS-Dash-Lewis, or Dot?)
> ejanss1.TakeThisOut@verizon.net

Both groups contain posts.
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Garondo Marondo wrote:

> On Jun 9, 7:11 pm, Captain Infinity <Infin....DeleteThis@captaininfinity.us>
> wrote:
> > Once Upon A Time,
> >
> > Garondo Marondo wrote:
> > >I've never read any of the books.
> >
> > Philistine.
>
> No one in my family read books when I was growing up, its a small
> miracle that I ever got hooked on reading, but now I only like non
> fiction.

You were that poor?
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Once Upon A Time,
Garondo Marondo wrote:

>I've never read any of the books.

Philistine.



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On Jun 10, 1:19 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru... DeleteThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> Garondo Marondo wrote:
> > On Jun 9, 7:11 pm, Captain Infinity <Infin... DeleteThis @captaininfinity.us>
> > wrote:
> > > Once Upon A Time,
>
> > > Garondo Marondo wrote:
> > > >I've never read any of the books.
>
> > > Philistine.
>
> > No one in my family read books when I was growing up, its a small
> > miracle that I ever got hooked on reading, but now I only like non
> > fiction.
>
> You were that poor?

What does money have to do with them not being readers?
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In article <0e97447f-4659-4579-ad7c-ab6226bc96f4 DeleteThis @e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
laraine <lariadc DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jun 9, 11:49 am, Garondo Marondo <Classic.Mr.H... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
>

Even in the books, not all animals speak (Eustace and Jill are
sickened when they learn that the meat they are eating came from
a _talking_ stag). Whether there is any visible difference (other
than body language) between a speaking and nonspeaking animal is
not clear; Lewis seemed to indicate such in 'The Magician's Nephew',
which is something of a retconnish book anyway: as some animals
are given speech, their size changes a bit as well. This would
account for Reepicheep and his people being alarmingly large as
mice go.
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On Jun 10, 8:43 am, ur... DeleteThis @panix.com (Michael Urban) wrote:
> In article <0e97447f-4659-4579-ad7c-ab6226bc9... DeleteThis @e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> laraine  <lari... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 9, 11:49 am, Garondo Marondo <Classic.Mr.H... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
>
> Even in the books, not all animals speak (Eustace and Jill are
> sickened when they learn that the meat they are eating came from
> a _talking_ stag).  

In the Caspian movie, a bear tries to attack Lucy,
and it is remarked that the animals have forgotten
how to talk.

>Whether there is any visible difference (other
> than body language) between a speaking and nonspeaking animal is
> not clear; Lewis seemed to indicate such in 'The Magician's Nephew',
> which is something of a retconnish book anyway: as some animals
> are given speech, their size changes a bit as well.  This would
> account for Reepicheep and his people being alarmingly large as
> mice go.

Reminds one of Strawberry/Fledge in the Magician's
Nephew (who becomes a talking horse with wings)
too.

C.
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Tim Bruening wrote:
>
> Derek Janssen wrote:
>
>> Garondo Marondo wrote:
>>
>>>>> Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
>>>> Except for "My NAME is..." Philip.
>>>
>>> Was that in the first film? It rings a bell. I only saw it once and
>>> I've never read any of the books.
>> The LWW line was Shrek-ish enough to be an off-book Adamson creation--
>> But as we see the older King Edmund still riding Sir Philip, it serves a
>> good one-moment explanation of how Narnian horses still consider
>> themselves with as much of a job to do as the bipedal creatures.
>>
>> Derek Janssen (and btw, which group is correct?: CS-Dash-Lewis, or Dot?)
>> ejanss1 DeleteThis @verizon.net
>
> Both groups contain posts.
>

Actually, the "dash" group is the correct one. The "dot" group was
evidently created by accident years ago, has no regulars at all, and
has no traffic except for spam and crossposts from the "dash" group.
See the FAQ entry at http://preview.tinyurl.com/6qwkjd

OTOH, the "dot" newsgroup just might be an appropriate place for
"posts" about the number of days since the last Narnia film...
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Garondo Marondo wrote:

> On Jun 10, 1:19 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru... DeleteThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > Garondo Marondo wrote:
> > > On Jun 9, 7:11 pm, Captain Infinity <Infin... DeleteThis @captaininfinity.us>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Once Upon A Time,
> >
> > > > Garondo Marondo wrote:
> > > > >I've never read any of the books.
> >
> > > > Philistine.
> >
> > > No one in my family read books when I was growing up, its a small
> > > miracle that I ever got hooked on reading, but now I only like non
> > > fiction.
> >
> > You were that poor?
>
> What does money have to do with them not being readers?

You can't buy books without money.
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laraine wrote:

> On Jun 10, 1:21 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru....RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > laraine wrote:
> > > On Jun 5, 6:37 pm, Tim Bruening <tsbru....RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > > --
> >
> > > > But how can arrows destroy a large catapult unless they are fire arrows (which I did not see in this movie)?
> >
> > > The awakening trees took care of the catapults...
> >
> > I was asking why Peter didn't order the griffins to drop rocks on the catapults before the trees woke up.
>
> Don't know, but I think it might be hard for a griffin to
> carry something as large and solid as massive
> boulders unless they were in a bag or tied on
> somehow, and then you'd need someone on
> board to manipulate all that too.

In the movie LWW, the griffins carried large rocks and dropped them on the White Witch's troops, so I wondered why
they didn't drop rocks in "Prince Caspian".
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and thus laraine inscribed ...
> On Jun 10, 8:43 am, ur... RemoveThis @panix.com (Michael Urban) wrote:
>> laraine <lari... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 9, 11:49 am, Garondo Marondo <Classic.Mr.H... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Can someone tell me why the horsies don't talk in the Narnia films?
>> Even in the books, not all animals speak (Eustace and Jill are
>> sickened when they learn that the meat they are eating came from
>> a _talking_ stag).
> In the Caspian movie, a bear tries to attack Lucy,
> and it is remarked that the animals have forgotten
> how to talk.

In the books, not all animals can talk, and they do eat meat. I don't expect that the Carnivores who talk are vegetarians. I could be wrong, but I don't recall that in the books. I do recall a no logging provisions in Narnia, I don't recall if there was no hunting as well. Probably they do. What a trade imbalance.

Talking animals, as I recall, were supposed to look different, like smaller animals were bigger, but really, it seems that they weren't that much physically different.
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