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Ciarán Ó Duibhín

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:25 pm
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An old book which I have been looking for has recently appeared as "publish
on demand". But I am hesitant to buy because this is a technical book, with
lots of obscure symbols.

I have asked two online bookstores whether the book I get will be reproduced
from images of the old edition, or from a stream of letters made by OCR from
the images. In the second case, I would have little hope of the book being
accurate or readable.

Neither bookstore answered my query. Would people here have an idea how
this is likely to be done?

Thanks,
Ciarán Ó Duibhín

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Marion Gropen

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:17 pm
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> I have asked two online bookstores whether the book I get will be reproduced
> from images of the old edition, or from a stream of letters made by OCR from
> the images.  In the second case, I would have little hope of the book being
> accurate or readable.

Depends upon the age of the original. If the publishers are likely to
have printed from a pdf, or similar file, then there's a better than
even chance that it's an exact replica, barring the difference in
resolution. (POD printers aren't **quite** as high in dpi or
linescreen.)

But, if the book is really old, then it's almost certainly OCR'd. That
doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't cleaned up by the author or
another person, but it does mean that someone will have needed to own
the correct character settings to properly scan and interpret the
images.

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Ciarán Ó Duibhín

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:25 pm
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>> I have asked two online bookstores whether the book I get will be
reproduced
>> from images of the old edition, or from a stream of letters made by OCR
from
>> the images. In the second case, I would have little hope of the book
being
>> accurate or readable.

>Depends upon the age of the original. If the publishers are likely to
>have printed from a pdf, or similar file, then there's a better than
>even chance that it's an exact replica, barring the difference in
>resolution. (POD printers aren't **quite** as high in dpi or
>linescreen.)

>But, if the book is really old, then it's almost certainly OCR'd. That
>doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't cleaned up by the author or
>another person, but it does mean that someone will have needed to own
>the correct character settings to properly scan and interpret the
>images.

Thanks for replying. The book was published in 1906 - is that "really old"?
It is full of non-standard phonetic symbols, so I seriously doubt that any
OCR would have been cleaned up (and it would certainly have needed
cleaning). It's sad that my two booksellers haven't replied about this.

Ciarán Ó Duibhín.
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Richard Kanarek

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:04 am
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Greetings,

I hate to disagree with the other poster, but I do. I'm inclined to
assume that the elderly book you're describing, as well as most
elderly books that are republished after their copyrights have
expired, is being republished using scans of the book, NOT text
extracted by OCR. Rendering OCR'ed text suitable for publishing is
(I'd assume) a major undertaking unless the publisher has no
professional standards whatsoever. For them to undertake such a
project on a book with tricky symbols, graphics, etc. would be
remarkable. If they did undertake such a project, one would certainly
assume that they'd include the graphics/etc.

I also don't know why you are directing your enquiries at your
booksellers, rather than the publisher. I can't imagine how you'd
expect your bookseller to know how a book, originally published in
1906, is now being published. (I'm guessing that the book isn't
terribly popular, at least not anymore.)

BTW, have you considered searching for a scan of the book on
http://books.google.com and elsewhere? As long as you're prepared to
accept a copy of the book, why not print your own or have it printed
for you?

Cordially,
Richard Kanarek




On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:28:14 +0100, "Ciarán Ó Duibhín"
wrote:

>An old book which I have been looking for has recently appeared as "publish
>on demand". But I am hesitant to buy because this is a technical book, with
>lots of obscure symbols.
>
>I have asked two online bookstores whether the book I get will be reproduced
>from images of the old edition, or from a stream of letters made by OCR from
>the images. In the second case, I would have little hope of the book being
>accurate or readable.
>
>Neither bookstore answered my query. Would people here have an idea how
>this is likely to be done?
>
>Thanks,
>Ciarán Ó Duibhín
>
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