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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:06 am
Post subject: RIP Robert Jordan
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:06 am
Post subject: Re: RIP Robert Jordan [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <2007091810062575249-guig@yerawathamecom>,
guig <guig RemoveThis @yerawathame.com> wrote:
> A sad loss.
I've been chewing on this a bit and have posted some thoughts in other
places, my mailing list and on a couple of writers lists.
Jim Rigney was not a friend, but someone I considered a friendly
acquaintance. Ironically, we met at World Fantasy in '84 in Chicago,
and both of us showed up wearing identical sports jackets, a camel hair
thing we both got at Men's Warehouse. He had just published his first
Conan novel and we working with Sprague de Camp. I had just published
Magician and we both chatted about being "new kids on the block."
I ran into Jim and his wife Harriet on several occasions over the years
and dined with them a couple of times and had drinks with them a couple
more. Robert Jordan was often seen as overbearing or bombastic,
opinionated and filled with his own sense of self-importance. I was on a
couple of panels with him and found Robert Jordan to be all those things
and more. Jim Rigney wasn't really Robert Jordan. That was his act.
Jim Rigney was charming and funny and a really lovely dinner companion.
He loved history and was a remarkably well read man, far more widely
than I am. He was three years my junior and far too young to leave us.
More than a good storyteller, he was a good man.
Best, R.E.F.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:36 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:18 pm
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"guig" <guig RemoveThis @yerawathame.com> wrote in message
news:2007091820361175249-guig@yerawathamecom...
> On 2007-09-18 16:50:09 +0100, Raymond Feist <raymond RemoveThis @nospam.bittersea.com>
> said:
>
>> In article <2007091810062575249-guig@yerawathamecom>,
>> guig <guig RemoveThis @yerawathame.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A sad loss.
>>
>> I've been chewing on this a bit and have posted some thoughts in other
>> places, my mailing list and on a couple of writers lists.
>>
>> Jim Rigney was not a friend, but someone I considered a friendly
>> acquaintance. Ironically, we met at World Fantasy in '84 in Chicago, and
>> both of us showed up wearing identical sports jackets, a camel hair thing
>> we both got at Men's Warehouse. He had just published his first Conan
>> novel and we working with Sprague de Camp. I had just published Magician
>> and we both chatted about being "new kids on the block."
>>
>> I ran into Jim and his wife Harriet on several occasions over the years
>> and dined with them a couple of times and had drinks with them a couple
>> more. Robert Jordan was often seen as overbearing or bombastic,
>> opinionated and filled with his own sense of self-importance. I was on a
>> couple of panels with him and found Robert Jordan to be all those things
>> and more. Jim Rigney wasn't really Robert Jordan. That was his act.
>>
>> Jim Rigney was charming and funny and a really lovely dinner companion.
>> He loved history and was a remarkably well read man, far more widely than
>> I am. He was three years my junior and far too young to leave us. More
>> than a good storyteller, he was a good man.
>>
>> Best, R.E.F.
>
> I don't travel in the circles that would get to meet authors face to face
> (although I did meet Bob Shaw once and promptly fell out with him as he
> was being an arse and he lost me as a reader forever) so I'll take your
> opinion of the man rather than the author, but I will miss his wonderful
> stories .... it'll be a shame if the WoT is never finished but that may be
> better than someone else finishing it from "notes" ....
Don't worry about the WoT never being finished. There will be some greedy
bloodsucker in the estate that will sell the rights to someone with marginal
talent (John Betancourt, anyone?), to put their own stamp on the series. >> Stay informed about: RIP Robert Jordan |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:18 pm
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In article <dRcIi.486466$Bo7.391081@fe07.news.easynews.com>,
"Bajori" <bajori1970.RemoveThis@cbj.com> wrote:
> "guig" <guig.RemoveThis@yerawathame.com> wrote in message
> news:2007091820361175249-guig@yerawathamecom...
> > On 2007-09-18 16:50:09 +0100, Raymond Feist <raymond.RemoveThis@nospam.bittersea.com>
> > said:
> >
> >> In article <2007091810062575249-guig@yerawathamecom>,
> >> guig <guig.RemoveThis@yerawathame.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A sad loss.
> >>
> >> I've been chewing on this a bit and have posted some thoughts in other
> >> places, my mailing list and on a couple of writers lists.
> >>
> >> Jim Rigney was not a friend, but someone I considered a friendly
> >> acquaintance. Ironically, we met at World Fantasy in '84 in Chicago, and
> >> both of us showed up wearing identical sports jackets, a camel hair thing
> >> we both got at Men's Warehouse. He had just published his first Conan
> >> novel and we working with Sprague de Camp. I had just published Magician
> >> and we both chatted about being "new kids on the block."
> >>
> >> I ran into Jim and his wife Harriet on several occasions over the years
> >> and dined with them a couple of times and had drinks with them a couple
> >> more. Robert Jordan was often seen as overbearing or bombastic,
> >> opinionated and filled with his own sense of self-importance. I was on a
> >> couple of panels with him and found Robert Jordan to be all those things
> >> and more. Jim Rigney wasn't really Robert Jordan. That was his act.
> >>
> >> Jim Rigney was charming and funny and a really lovely dinner companion.
> >> He loved history and was a remarkably well read man, far more widely than
> >> I am. He was three years my junior and far too young to leave us. More
> >> than a good storyteller, he was a good man.
> >>
> >> Best, R.E.F.
> >
> > I don't travel in the circles that would get to meet authors face to face
> > (although I did meet Bob Shaw once and promptly fell out with him as he
> > was being an arse and he lost me as a reader forever) so I'll take your
> > opinion of the man rather than the author, but I will miss his wonderful
> > stories .... it'll be a shame if the WoT is never finished but that may be
> > better than someone else finishing it from "notes" ....
>
> Don't worry about the WoT never being finished. There will be some greedy
> bloodsucker in the estate that will sell the rights to someone with marginal
> talent (John Betancourt, anyone?), to put their own stamp on the series.
Don't jump to conclusions. The last book is written. It just needs to
be edited and put into production. The slow down is that Jim's wife
Harriet is his editor; that's how they met. Once she's over this, I'm
sure she'll make sure it gets published the way Jim would have wanted.
Best, R.E.F.
--
Never attribute to malice what can
satisfactorily be explained away by stupidity. >> Stay informed about: RIP Robert Jordan |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:49 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:06 pm
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"Raymond Feist" <raymond DeleteThis @nospam.bittersea.com> wrote in message
news:raymond-938651.10475319092007@johnf2.biosci.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <dRcIi.486466$Bo7.391081@fe07.news.easynews.com>,
> "Bajori" <bajori1970 DeleteThis @cbj.com> wrote:
>
>> "guig" <guig DeleteThis @yerawathame.com> wrote in message
>> news:2007091820361175249-guig@yerawathamecom...
>> > On 2007-09-18 16:50:09 +0100, Raymond Feist
>> > <raymond DeleteThis @nospam.bittersea.com>
>> > said:
>> >
>> >> In article <2007091810062575249-guig@yerawathamecom>,
>> >> guig <guig DeleteThis @yerawathame.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> A sad loss.
>> >>
>> >> I've been chewing on this a bit and have posted some thoughts in other
>> >> places, my mailing list and on a couple of writers lists.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Rigney was not a friend, but someone I considered a friendly
>> >> acquaintance. Ironically, we met at World Fantasy in '84 in Chicago,
>> >> and
>> >> both of us showed up wearing identical sports jackets, a camel hair
>> >> thing
>> >> we both got at Men's Warehouse. He had just published his first
>> >> Conan
>> >> novel and we working with Sprague de Camp. I had just published
>> >> Magician
>> >> and we both chatted about being "new kids on the block."
>> >>
>> >> I ran into Jim and his wife Harriet on several occasions over the
>> >> years
>> >> and dined with them a couple of times and had drinks with them a
>> >> couple
>> >> more. Robert Jordan was often seen as overbearing or bombastic,
>> >> opinionated and filled with his own sense of self-importance. I was on
>> >> a
>> >> couple of panels with him and found Robert Jordan to be all those
>> >> things
>> >> and more. Jim Rigney wasn't really Robert Jordan. That was his act.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Rigney was charming and funny and a really lovely dinner
>> >> companion.
>> >> He loved history and was a remarkably well read man, far more widely
>> >> than
>> >> I am. He was three years my junior and far too young to leave us.
>> >> More
>> >> than a good storyteller, he was a good man.
>> >>
>> >> Best, R.E.F.
>> >
>> > I don't travel in the circles that would get to meet authors face to
>> > face
>> > (although I did meet Bob Shaw once and promptly fell out with him as he
>> > was being an arse and he lost me as a reader forever) so I'll take your
>> > opinion of the man rather than the author, but I will miss his
>> > wonderful
>> > stories .... it'll be a shame if the WoT is never finished but that may
>> > be
>> > better than someone else finishing it from "notes" ....
>>
>> Don't worry about the WoT never being finished. There will be some greedy
>> bloodsucker in the estate that will sell the rights to someone with
>> marginal
>> talent (John Betancourt, anyone?), to put their own stamp on the series.
>
> Don't jump to conclusions. The last book is written. It just needs to
> be edited and put into production. The slow down is that Jim's wife
> Harriet is his editor; that's how they met. Once she's over this, I'm
> sure she'll make sure it gets published the way Jim would have wanted.
>
> Best, R.E.F.
>
I have never read the entirety of WoT. Just doesn't suit me. But that
actually makes me feel good that there is someone involved with the estate
that will treat the legacy properly. I have very definite opinions about
people and their last wishes. Those people running the Zelazny estate are
really scummy people. The man made his wishes clear that there were to be no
sequels, so someone came up with the bright idea of selling the rights for
prequels. That just rubs me wrong, for some reason.
More importantly, for those Jordan fans, hopefully they will be patient
enough to allow Harriet time needed for whatever recovery she needs. My
guess is that it won't be too long on the work front; she will want to get
it out there quickly, as a fitting memorial. But then again, I don't know
the lady so am just making a guess.
B
"Red meat isn't bad for you. It is fuzzy blue-green meat that is bad for
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