What was Sauron thinking?

External Since: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 76

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:55:44 GMT, amorphous999
<amorphous999.DeleteThis@MAPSON.hotmail.com> wrote:

<snippo>

>Does Tolkien talk about his religion and ethics anyplace? I don't expect
>him to talk about morals in LoTR, but is there a talk about faith and right
>and wrong someplace?
>
>Also, now that I think about it, religion would be completely different in
>Middle Earth. You don't have Christianity, Buddhism, etc. because the
>creation story is known, and semi-divine beings really exist. If you are
>an Elf or a Numenorean, you don't have theology; you have history. The
>songs and stories in Rivendell and Lorien were at the same time histories,
>stories, and prayers.
>
>Do Orcs have religion? Hmmmm....

Of course not. They have an alternative version of history -- one in
which Morgoth is the creator and rightful ruler of Arda, "Eru" is just
a myth, and the "Valar" (and all who support them, such as Elves, Men,
Hobbits, Dwarves, Ents, Eagles, ...) are rebels.
--
"A portent, therefore, happens not contrary to nature,
but contrary to what we know as nature."

External Since: Nov 19, 2007 Posts: 4

"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net.RemoveThis@ojevind.lang> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> Tolkien the prophet (yeah, right). You could do a long essay on
>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>> interpretations people have tried to straitjacket LotR into. The
>>>>>>>> Ring as
>>>>>>>> atomic weapons was a popular one back during the Cold War. It was
>>>>>>>> a lousy
>>>>>>>> fit although equating Gandalf ad the James Bond of Middle Earth has
>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>> had a certain appeal to me. Tolkien, like Mark Twain always said
>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>> just a story; I think that's one of the reasons you don't have the
>>>>>>>> words "A
>>>>>>>> Novel" in the title.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could do a pretty good skit on the idea of "Sauron's Weekly
>>>>>>>> Staff
>>>>>>>> Meetings". Make sure your will is up to date Smile

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heh. It's a tempting thought. Very Happy

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm, Gandalf with a Scottish accent and lots of technical
>>>>>> gadgets.....Frodo as sexy ingenue? Sauron would have to be
>>>>>> Blofeld.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And Morgoth would be in the background, petting a cat all the time?
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, yes! But who would be Diana Rigg? Galadriel?
>>>
>>> Absolutely! And Rosie Cotton could be Miss Moneypenny.
>>>
>>> Öjevind
>>
>> The Mouth of Sauron is Jaws? (not the shark, of course...)
>
> Good Lord, no! Jaws (the character in the Bond films) is much too nice for
> that. Jaws could be... umm... Ioreth - you know, a really tough jaw.
> The Mouth of Sauron could be Dr Yes.
>
> Öjevind

Fair enough, but could Odd Job be the Witch King? He slowly pulls back his
cloak, revealing glowing red eyes seemingly hanging in space, with a bowler
cap on.