why not "Sir?

External Since: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 270

Flame of the West wrote:

> Derek Broughton wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure Flame would agree that he said it was about protecting
>> Israel,
>> either. I, and I suspect he, believe that much of America's foreign
>> policy
>> is about, in Flame's word, "pandering" but not to Israel as such. Rather
>> to American voters, of which the Jewish (particularly Zionist) bloc is an
>> influential part.
>
> Yes, but it's not just the Jewish vote; our evangelical Christians have
> for the most part signed on to a curious theology that applies Biblical
> references to "Israel" to the modern secular state. Thus each party is
> dependent on a fiercely pro-Israel segment of its base.

Ah, right. I suppose I'd noticed that happening without paying close
attention.

> Obama recently over-pandered by declaring Jerusalem forever part of
> Israel, which threatened the peace process until he backpedaled. I
> ascribe that to lack of experience; I'm sure that, with practice, he'll
> be able to pander with the best of them.

LOL.
--
derek

External Since: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 97

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:50:26 -0400, Flame of the West
wrote:

>Derek Broughton wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure Flame would agree that he said it was about protecting Israel,
>> either. I, and I suspect he, believe that much of America's foreign policy
>> is about, in Flame's word, "pandering" but not to Israel as such. Rather
>> to American voters, of which the Jewish (particularly Zionist) bloc is an
>> influential part.
>
>Yes, but it's not just the Jewish vote; our evangelical Christians have
>for the most part signed on to a curious theology that applies Biblical
>references to "Israel" to the modern secular state. Thus each party is
>dependent on a fiercely pro-Israel segment of its base.

And in many cases the point is that the events of Revelation cannot
occur without "Israel" existing. Some groups behave as if they thought
they could /force/ God to end the world by tricking Israel (the modern
state) to act in a particular way.
--
"A portent, therefore, happens not contrary to nature,
but contrary to what we know as nature."