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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:44 am
Post subject: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU
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'All 14-year-old children in England will have their personal details
and exam results placed on an electronic database for life under a
plan to be announced tomorrow.
Colleges and prospective employers will be able to access students'
records online to check on their qualifications. Under the terms of
the scheme all children will keep their individual number throughout
their adult lives, The Times has learnt.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3359931.ece
It's called Unique Learner Number. I guess it's UNLENUMB in newspeak.
Extraordinary name for it, considering it's all about state coercion,
ID cards, socialist money monitoring and state control in a country
that no longer has much learning of any worth in its schools. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:05 am
Post subject: Re: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 16 Feb, 09:44, generalcony... DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
> 'All 14-year-old children in England will have their personal details
> and exam results placed on an electronic database for life under a
> plan to be announced tomorrow.
>
> Colleges and prospective employers will be able to access students'
> records online to check on their qualifications. Under the terms of
> the scheme all children will keep their individual number throughout
> their adult lives, The Times has learnt.'
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3359931.ece
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> It's called Unique Learner Number. I guess it's UNLENUMB in newspeak.
> Extraordinary name for it, considering it's all about state coercion,
> ID cards, socialist money monitoring and state control in a country
> that no longer has much learning of any worth in its schools.
falsification of grades and certificates is a massive problem at the
minute. laser copiers etc have made it dead easy. for my last job I
had to provide certificates going back 10 years, covering 15 exams and
5 years of postgrad study. It was a right ballsache. I am against ID
cards etc but I do not see the harm in this one, except as a symptom. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:56 am
Post subject: Re: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:48 pm
Post subject: Re: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 20 Feb, 15:05, "P.S.Burton" <dlb....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 Feb, 09:44, generalcony....DeleteThis@googlemail.com wrote:
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> > 'All 14-year-old children in England will have their personal details
> > and exam results placed on an electronic database for life under a
> > plan to be announced tomorrow.
>
> > Colleges and prospective employers will be able to access students'
> > records online to check on their qualifications. Under the terms of
> > the scheme all children will keep their individual number throughout
> > their adult lives, The Times has learnt.'
>
> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3359931.ece
>
> > It's called Unique Learner Number. I guess it's UNLENUMB in newspeak.
> > Extraordinary name for it, considering it's all about state coercion,
> > ID cards, socialist money monitoring and state control in a country
> > that no longer has much learning of any worth in its schools.
>
> falsification of grades and certificates is a massive problem at the
> minute. laser copiers etc have made it dead easy. for my last job I
> had to provide certificates going back 10 years, covering 15 exams and
> 5 years of postgrad study
And very little logic to be seen for any of it! >> Stay informed about: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:41 am
Post subject: Re: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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generalconyers.RemoveThis@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 20 Feb, 15:05, "P.S.Burton" <dlb....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 16 Feb, 09:44, generalcony....RemoveThis@googlemail.com wrote:
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>>> 'All 14-year-old children in England will have their personal details
>>> and exam results placed on an electronic database for life under a
>>> plan to be announced tomorrow.
>>> Colleges and prospective employers will be able to access students'
>>> records online to check on their qualifications. Under the terms of
>>> the scheme all children will keep their individual number throughout
>>> their adult lives, The Times has learnt.'
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3359931.ece
>>> It's called Unique Learner Number. I guess it's UNLENUMB in newspeak.
>>> Extraordinary name for it, considering it's all about state coercion,
>>> ID cards, socialist money monitoring and state control in a country
>>> that no longer has much learning of any worth in its schools.
>> falsification of grades and certificates is a massive problem at the
>> minute. laser copiers etc have made it dead easy. for my last job I
>> had to provide certificates going back 10 years, covering 15 exams and
>> 5 years of postgrad study
>
> And very little logic to be seen for any of it!
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>
....and if that weren't bad enough, "British police want to collect DNA
samples from children as young as five who 'exhibit behavior indicating
they may become criminals in later life'."
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/16/1730221
Cripe. Does nobody over there object?
/M >> Stay informed about: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 17 Mar, 05:41, Martha Bridegam <bride....DeleteThis@pacbell.net> wrote:
> generalcony....DeleteThis@googlemail.com wrote:
> > On 20 Feb, 15:05, "P.S.Burton" <dlb....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 16 Feb, 09:44, generalcony....DeleteThis@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> >>> 'All 14-year-old children in England will have their personal details
> >>> and exam results placed on an electronic database for life under a
> >>> plan to be announced tomorrow.
> >>> Colleges and prospective employers will be able to access students'
> >>> records online to check on their qualifications. Under the terms of
> >>> the scheme all children will keep their individual number throughout
> >>> their adult lives, The Times has learnt.'
> >>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3359931.ece
> >>> It's called Unique Learner Number. I guess it's UNLENUMB in newspeak.
> >>> Extraordinary name for it, considering it's all about state coercion,
> >>> ID cards, socialist money monitoring and state control in a country
> >>> that no longer has much learning of any worth in its schools.
> >> falsification of grades and certificates is a massive problem at the
> >> minute. laser copiers etc have made it dead easy. for my last job I
> >> had to provide certificates going back 10 years, covering 15 exams and
> >> 5 years of postgrad study
>
> > And very little logic to be seen for any of it!
>
> ...and if that weren't bad enough, "British police want to collect DNA
> samples from children as young as five who 'exhibit behavior indicating
> they may become criminals in later life'."
>
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/16/1730221
>
> Cripe. Does nobody over there object?
>
> /M- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I object. I think Liberty, in its more sensible sides, objects. But
why are the Left are surprised at a 'social democrat' Government made
up of old lefties wanted to control people's lives from cradle to
grave? >> Stay informed about: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:17 pm
Post subject: Re: UNLENUMB from McMINITRU [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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generalconyers DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
> On 17 Mar, 05:41, Martha Bridegam <bride... DeleteThis @pacbell.net> wrote:
>> generalcony... DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
>>> On 20 Feb, 15:05, "P.S.Burton" <dlb... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 16 Feb, 09:44, generalcony... DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
>>>>> 'All 14-year-old children in England will have their personal details
>>>>> and exam results placed on an electronic database for life under a
>>>>> plan to be announced tomorrow.
>>>>> Colleges and prospective employers will be able to access students'
>>>>> records online to check on their qualifications. Under the terms of
>>>>> the scheme all children will keep their individual number throughout
>>>>> their adult lives, The Times has learnt.'
>>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3359931.ece
>>>>> It's called Unique Learner Number. I guess it's UNLENUMB in newspeak.
>>>>> Extraordinary name for it, considering it's all about state coercion,
>>>>> ID cards, socialist money monitoring and state control in a country
>>>>> that no longer has much learning of any worth in its schools.
>>>> falsification of grades and certificates is a massive problem at the
>>>> minute. laser copiers etc have made it dead easy. for my last job I
>>>> had to provide certificates going back 10 years, covering 15 exams and
>>>> 5 years of postgrad study
>>> And very little logic to be seen for any of it!
>> ...and if that weren't bad enough, "British police want to collect DNA
>> samples from children as young as five who 'exhibit behavior indicating
>> they may become criminals in later life'."
>>
>> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/16/1730221
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>> Cripe. Does nobody over there object?
>>
>> /M- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> I object. I think Liberty, in its more sensible sides, objects. But
> why are the Left are surprised at a 'social democrat' Government made
> up of old lefties wanted to control people's lives from cradle to
> grave?
It's baffling how conservative authoritarians who call themselves
liberals get blamed on "the left." Some kind of of projection, possibly.
I've been reading Richard Hofstadter's *The Paranoid Style in American
Politics.* Some possibly relevant thoughts there.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:09 pm
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ROBBIE wrote:
"...Martha, as Bogart said somewhere: 'It's not you I dislike, I just
don't like your type.'..."
whew.
I may need to go sip me some cosmo plurals, extra vodka, never mind the
frappacini-marxist. (Is there a story called "Frappacini's Daughter"
about a poison blueberry milkshake?)
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