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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:38:01 -0800 (PST), ncwaite.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>Personally, I would leave it at having one or two of the other wizards
>giving the two of them quizical looks [1], but otherwise leaving it
>unmentioned. You don't need to explain everything in a film.
>
>Cheers,
>Nigel.
>
>[1] Implying something like "How come the great Albertus Magnus looks
>so much like the only wizard in history to have a negative magical
>ability ?"

It could work. Rather like the use of the TV version of Marvin in that
awful Hitchhiker film.

Regards

Doug Urquhart
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"Doug Urquhart" <dougald.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:38:01 -0800 (PST), ncwaite.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Personally, I would leave it at having one or two of the other wizards
>>giving the two of them quizical looks [1], but otherwise leaving it
>>unmentioned. You don't need to explain everything in a film.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Nigel.
>>
>>[1] Implying something like "How come the great Albertus Magnus looks
>>so much like the only wizard in history to have a negative magical
>>ability ?"
>
> It could work. Rather like the use of the TV version of Marvin in that
> awful Hitchhiker film.

And which "awful" Hitchhiker film would that be. Be thankful we even GOT a
hitchhiker film.
awful or otherwise.
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Raymond Daley <raymond.daley.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "Doug Urquhart" <dougald.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> > It could work. Rather like the use of the TV version of Marvin in that
> > awful Hitchhiker film.
>
> And which "awful" Hitchhiker film would that be. Be thankful we even GOT a
> hitchhiker film.
> awful or otherwise.

If something's awful (and IMO the HItchhiker's film was, although
obviously YMMV) why should we be thankful for it? Because it wasn't
worse?

Just because the film actually got made doesn't place it above
criticism.

I'm sort of pleased they're doing a film of CoM, but I'd be a lot more
pleased if they'd cast someone else as Rincewind. Does that make me some
sort of ghastly ingrate?

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Carol
"If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put
that thing in your mouth. Particularly if the thing is
cats." - Lemony Snicket _The Wide Window_
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Carol Hague wrote:
> Raymond Daley <raymond.daley.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> "Doug Urquhart" <dougald.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:479521ee.1131701971@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
>
>>> It could work. Rather like the use of the TV version of Marvin in that
>>> awful Hitchhiker film.
>> And which "awful" Hitchhiker film would that be. Be thankful we even GOT a
>> hitchhiker film.
>> awful or otherwise.
>
> If something's awful (and IMO the HItchhiker's film was, although
> obviously YMMV) why should we be thankful for it? Because it wasn't
> worse?
>
> Just because the film actually got made doesn't place it above
> criticism.
>
> I'm sort of pleased they're doing a film of CoM, but I'd be a lot more
> pleased if they'd cast someone else as Rincewind. Does that make me some
> sort of ghastly ingrate?
>

Are we talking about the one that came out a few years ago? Because I
quite liked it for the most part.
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Daniel Orner wrote:
> Carol Hague wrote:
>> Raymond Daley <raymond.daley.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Doug Urquhart" <dougald.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:479521ee.1131701971@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
>>
>>>> It could work. Rather like the use of the TV version of Marvin in that
>>>> awful Hitchhiker film.
>>> And which "awful" Hitchhiker film would that be. Be thankful we even
>>> GOT a
>>> hitchhiker film.
>>> awful or otherwise.
>>
>> If something's awful (and IMO the HItchhiker's film was, although
>> obviously YMMV) why should we be thankful for it? Because it wasn't
>> worse?
>>
>> Just because the film actually got made doesn't place it above
>> criticism.
>>
>> I'm sort of pleased they're doing a film of CoM, but I'd be a lot more
>> pleased if they'd cast someone else as Rincewind. Does that make me some
>> sort of ghastly ingrate?
>>
>
> Are we talking about the one that came out a few years ago? Because
> I quite liked it for the most part.
Some people didn't like it because the story was not the same as the
orignal, but there again neither was the book (or its sequels),
certainly not the stage play, the LP or the TV series... so what the heck!

What I always found wrong in the visual versions was Marvin - I imagined
him as a dull grey (plastic silver?) clumpy version of C3-PO. This
would make the irony between potential and realisation greater and in
that case the film Marvin was much better than the TV 'clockwork' design.

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Reader in Invisible Writings <markfoweraker DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> Daniel Orner wrote:
<HHTTG film>
> > Are we talking about the one that came out a few years ago? Because
> > I quite liked it for the most part.
> Some people didn't like it because the story was not the same as the
> orignal, but there again neither was the book (or its sequels),
> certainly not the stage play, the LP or the TV series... so what the heck!

I didn't like it because they made subtle, but important changes to the
character of Arthur Dent, such that he was, IMO, no longer Arthur Dent.

The story, as you say, is mutable, but messing with the *characters*
irks me.

We are, however, somewhat off-topic for abp, so I'll not make any
further complaints about it.
--
Carol
"If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put
that thing in your mouth. Particularly if the thing is
cats." - Lemony Snicket _The Wide Window_
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In article <f08f28f5-83fd-49b7-8efc-43de85f09143 DeleteThis @l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
<ncwaite DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 16 Jan, 22:56, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai... DeleteThis @sometimes.sessile.org>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:38:21 +0000, Martyn Clapham
>> <afpm... DeleteThis @pendlesider.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >ncwa...@hotmail.com writes
>>
>> >>More interestingly, if they have people cast as Cohen and Galder
>> >>Weatherwax that means that the series is going to cover TLF as well as
>> >>TCOM.
>>
>> >IIRC, it was announced as one production based on both books with Terry
>> >doing the amalgamation. I think it was decided that as TLF is a direct
>> >follow-on it was easier to do that way and Terry gets to do a 'Carpet
>> >People' and make it into what he would have written now with 20 years
>> >more experience in writing.
>>
>> That's very interesting in itself! I'll look forward to this script,
>> and maybe even the screenplay too.

And maybe even the novelization?

>I guess that would include retro-fitting the more sympathetic Death of
>the later books back into these stories. I hope that they keep the
>"Appointment in Psephopololis" in the script.

It's a fine line situation.

The Death in Mort was only slightly more sympathetic. He learned a lot
in Reaper Man. But the tv audience, especially those who have not read
the books and only saw Hogfather, will be expecting the full-fledged
current version. I guess just removing the bits where he seems to kill
something out of annoyance (especially that cat!) will be enough to put
the character into a version that is at least recognizable. Still, I
hope they work in the "hobby" bit somehow.

This film is going to need that larger budget for all the CGI.

=Tamar
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In article <01eb13ab$0$17018$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
Mad Hamish <silverhorde.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Richard Eney" <dicconf.RemoveThis@radix.net> wrote

>>>RHI Entertainment, LLC

>>> http://www.rhifilms.com/property.php?propertyId=CofMagic

I notice the poster spells it "Color" - will there be two versions
of the poster? Two versions of the titles? Argh.

>> But who's playing the Patrician? He's mentioned in the blurb, and it's
>> a tiny role, but they're listing nameless characters; is he reduced to
>> an offscreen voice, or a note handed to Rincewind by a guard or something?

>The identity of the Patrician has been announced, albeit to a very small
>number of fans who were on the set, they were immediately sworn to secrecy
>by the director Vadim Jean. I was there but unfortunately didn't hear and
>the rest of the bu**ers who were there, won't tell me !!!

Ah. The plot thickens?

>To those interested, the broken drum set looked fantastic, smelt awful due
>to 'no expense spared REAL seafood' on a market stall that had been standing
>there 5 days.

Urk. I remember reading about the filming of a pie-fight that was infamous
because they used real food and couldn't reproduce the messes so the actors
had to use the same food-covered clothing and set for the whole time it took
to shoot - and one actor had to remain spotless, so every time a spot hit him
all action stopped until his costume was spotless again. Took forever and
stunk dreadfully.

>David Jason played a surprisingly good Rincewind despite my initial doubts,
>Sean Astin was a very convincing Twoflower and Terry's PA was the best dead
>body ever.

PA?

>On set gossip indicated that this might be the last David Jason appearance
>due to contractural obligations (golden handcuffs were mentioned)

Goodness. So presumably the next Rincewind film will have a different
Rincewind? Maybe a skinnier one? They can ignore it (typical) or write
in a claim that one of the major magical shifts caused the change in looks.
(Personally, I'd go for ignoring it. Then you don't have to explain it
every time. The audience can handle it.)

>but Sourcery was definately a possibility for the next Sky venture
>to the Discworld.

Sourcery is going to take some doing to make a tv movie, even with
the established three-hour timeframe (and maybe more?). There are
so many different places involved; it's very expensive with that many
sets even if it's all soundstages. The ending is all over the place,
too, with characters scattering.

Also, there's a mood problem, it's very somber. I suppose they'll
use "a wizard will always come back for his hat" as a hook for the
next one, which will have to be Eric.

I'd like it if it were possible to combine the two, but I can't
think of a way that would work. They're entirely different
stories and the only connection is Rincewind.

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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:12:07 -0000, dicconf RemoveThis @radix.net (Richard Eney)
wrote:
>In article <f08f28f5-83fd-49b7-8efc-43de85f09143 RemoveThis @l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> <ncwaite RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On 16 Jan, 22:56, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai... RemoveThis @sometimes.sessile.org>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >IIRC, it was announced as one production based on both books with Terry
>>> >doing the amalgamation. I think it was decided that as TLF is a direct
>>> >follow-on it was easier to do that way and Terry gets to do a 'Carpet
>>> >People' and make it into what he would have written now with 20 years
>>> >more experience in writing.
>>>
>>> That's very interesting in itself! I'll look forward to this script,
>>> and maybe even the screenplay too.
>
>And maybe even the novelization?

If Terry hadn't cut back on books per year for the sake of his health,
I'd have put that down too... just like The Carpet People, it'd be
fascinating to see the differences.

Oh, horrors - I just had a flash of "Terry Pratchett's The Color of
Magic, The Movie - by Kevin J Anderson". Eurrrgh.

Cheers - Jaimie
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In article <iljhp3hpduomnckspde9oa5pl53oojbpgd.RemoveThis@newsposting.sessile.org>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie.RemoveThis@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>dicconf@radix.net wrote:
>> <ncwaite.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai....RemoveThis@sometimes.sessile.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >IIRC, it was announced as one production based on both books with Terry
>>>> >doing the amalgamation. I think it was decided that as TLF is a direct
>>>> >follow-on it was easier to do that way and Terry gets to do a 'Carpet
>>>> >People' and make it into what he would have written now with 20 years
>>>> >more experience in writing.
>>>>
>>>> That's very interesting in itself! I'll look forward to this script,
>>>> and maybe even the screenplay too.
>>
>>And maybe even the novelization?
>
>If Terry hadn't cut back on books per year for the sake of his health,
>I'd have put that down too... just like The Carpet People, it'd be
>fascinating to see the differences.

Since (I expect) we'll see the movie, it _will_ be fascinating to
see the differences.

>Oh, horrors - I just had a flash of "Terry Pratchett's The Color of
>Magic, The Movie - by Kevin J Anderson". Eurrrgh.

Eurgh indeed.

=Tamar
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