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selene1022v

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:34 am
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In the Guardian comment section, an e-mail exchange:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,986693,00.html

(Let me know if the link doesn't work)

Scooter finally got his book published, has anyone read it?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:07 pm
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selene1022 wrote

 >In the Guardian comment section, an e-mail exchange:
 >
 >http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,986693,00.html

Thanks. I think Taylor wins that round fairly easily. Poor Sccoter. (I just
reread your amusing, if slightly mean, post about him from last year:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=cfdb308.020609145
5.3efc3709%40posting.google.com>)

Turns out the quote about Nineteen Eighty-Four being a "deliberate and sadistic
attack on socialism and socialist parties generally" is from Frederic Warburg,
who published the book. So Lucas said in his "George Orwell was not a
socialist" article from three years ago:
<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.geocities.com/cpa_blacktown/20000602orweltnsuk.htm" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/cpa_blacktown/20000602orweltnsuk.htm</a>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:07 pm
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Gene Zitver wrote:

 > selene1022 wrote
 >
  > >In the Guardian comment section, an e-mail exchange:
  > >
  > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,986693,00.html
 >
 > Thanks. I think Taylor wins that round fairly easily. Poor Sccoter. (I just
 > reread your amusing, if slightly mean, post about him from last year:
 > <http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=cfdb308.020609145
 > 5.3efc3709%40posting.google.com>)
 >
 > Turns out the quote about Nineteen Eighty-Four being a "deliberate and sadistic
 > attack on socialism and socialist parties generally" is from Frederic Warburg,
 > who published the book. So Lucas said in his "George Orwell was not a
 > socialist" article from three years ago:
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.geocities.com/cpa_blacktown/20000602orweltnsuk.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/cpa_blacktown/20000602orweltnsuk.htm</font</a>>
 >
 > Gene
 >

Interesting that the subtler biographer is the one to talk about Orwell's
character and literary appeal, while the ideologue pays attention to the
too-frequent use of Orwell's words as blunt instruments.

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