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foxy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:19 pm
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The UK trailer of A Scanner Darkly starts with usual phrase fro all
trailers "From the creator of..." adding "...Blade Runner..." Well, I
guess they mean Philip Dick. But he did not create Blade Runner, which
is a movie loosely based on his book "Do androids...", you all know. But
who cares, marketing people love the phrase "From the creator" and
wanted to associate A Scanner Darkly with Blade Runner. If I were Ridley
Scott I would definitely sue them!

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Clark Kent

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:00 pm
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:37:39 -0700, "Bill Cleere"
<bcleereNO.TakeThisOut@SPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>
>Does anybody know what the hell that was about? With that cast,
>"animated" or not, why on earth did it get art house release?

Probably because the film was so unconventional (I am referring to the
animation). To many people, myself included, animation is an
automatic turn off. I saw it, and I would have prefered "real"
actors. I wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't based on my favorite
Dick novel.

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Mary Hinge

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:02 am
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Clark Kent wrote:
:: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:37:39 -0700, "Bill Cleere"
:: <bcleereNO.TakeThisOut@SPAMgmail.com> wrote:
::
:::
::: Does anybody know what the hell that was about? With that cast,
::: "animated" or not, why on earth did it get art house release?
::
:: Probably because the film was so unconventional (I am referring to
:: the animation). To many people, myself included, animation is an
:: automatic turn off. I saw it, and I would have prefered "real"
:: actors. I wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't based on my favorite
:: Dick novel.


I was sceptical about going to see it:- wondering why the animation process
was being used and whether they would ruin another PKD story.
IMO they are real actors and I was conscious that they look like the real
Keannu, Winona, Downey and Harrelson.


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dave_rymannosp

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:22 am
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"Mary Hinge" <ederton-at-gmail.con> wrote in
news:45089c15$0$12638$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com:

> Clark Kent wrote:
>:: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:37:39 -0700, "Bill Cleere"
>:: <bcleereNO DeleteThis @SPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>::
>:::
>::: Does anybody know what the hell that was about? With that cast,
>::: "animated" or not, why on earth did it get art house release?
>::
>:: Probably because the film was so unconventional (I am referring to
>:: the animation). To many people, myself included, animation is an
>:: automatic turn off. I saw it, and I would have prefered "real"
>:: actors. I wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't based on my favorite
>:: Dick novel.
>
>
> I was sceptical about going to see it:- wondering why the animation
> process was being used and whether they would ruin another PKD story.
> IMO they are real actors and I was conscious that they look like the
> real Keannu, Winona, Downey and Harrelson.
>
>

I generally agree with some of the comments: I wouldn't have normally
seen it @ the cinema if it was something other than PKD, and most of it
would have been served well with the actors on their own.

What I did like was the animation of the suit, and the way that the
animator's interpretation of things added an extra depth on top of the
actor's interpretation.

All in all, though, a faithful adaptation of a PKD story - at last!
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Dave

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Mary Hinge

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:29 am
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Dave Ryman wrote:

::
:: I generally agree with some of the comments:

But...? Wink

I wouldn't have normally
:: seen it @ the cinema if it was something other than PKD, and most of
:: it would have been served well with the actors on their own.
::
:: What I did like was the animation of the suit, and the way that the
:: animator's interpretation of things added an extra depth on top of
:: the actor's interpretation.

The depiction of the suit was maybe the most interesting thing in the film.
Not quite how I imagined it from the novel.

::
:: All in all, though, a faithful adaptation of a PKD story - at last!

Surprisingly faithfull. My only slight disapointment was the lack of humour.
They didn't really catch the funniness about the bike gears.
And did they do the part about the coke bottles on the freway? It said a lot
about the character of Donna. She was underwritten in the film.
One last point: I don't think Barris was nasty or cynical enough...but that
is Hollywood!




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dave_rymannosp

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:53 pm
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"Mary Hinge" <ederton-at-gmail.con> wrote in
news:450920eb$0$12635$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com:

> Dave Ryman wrote:
>
>::
>:: I generally agree with some of the comments:
>
> But...? Wink
>
> I wouldn't have normally
>:: seen it @ the cinema if it was something other than PKD, and most of
>:: it would have been served well with the actors on their own.
>::
>:: What I did like was the animation of the suit, and the way that the
>:: animator's interpretation of things added an extra depth on top of
>:: the actor's interpretation.
>
> The depiction of the suit was maybe the most interesting thing in the
> film. Not quite how I imagined it from the novel.
>
>::
>:: All in all, though, a faithful adaptation of a PKD story - at last!
>
> Surprisingly faithfull. My only slight disapointment was the lack of
> humour. They didn't really catch the funniness about the bike gears.
> And did they do the part about the coke bottles on the freway? It said
> a lot about the character of Donna. She was underwritten in the film.
> One last point: I don't think Barris was nasty or cynical enough...but
> that is Hollywood!
>
>
>
>

I agree, from what I remember, Barris and Donna were larger characters in
the book (I was going to say "real life"! OMG!).

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Dave

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:32 am
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"Pennyroyal" <pennyroyalREMOVE DeleteThis @bellsouthUPPERCASE.netWORDS> wrote in message
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francs." (Stendhal)
:
: May be the best movie adaptation of a Dick story yet and no way to
: find out. Closest it came was New Orleans and no way for me to get
: over there. Seems the States still hasnt learned to love PKD. Not
: really. Even Blade Runner wasnt really PKD. It was always like this
: with his books too. They loved him more in France than they ever did
: in his home country. Hope the DVD comes out soon, but then there isnt
: even a Blockbuster left to rent it from down here since that bloody
: storm wiped everything out. Gubbish in all the trees and vultures in
: the sky. Back to my hovel with Perky Pat. *D* is for distopia...
:
Funny, not to get into politicks here, but W really is much worse than Ferris
Fremont/Nixon ever was.
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