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(Msg. 61) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:46 am
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:10:43 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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>Kat Hein wrote:
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><snip>
>> I did start Anna Karenina a couple times. Just like I started A Tale of
>> Two Cities at least 5 times.
>
>Really? A Tale of Two Cities, I've read. Enjoyed it, in fact. Kudos for
>one of the most poetic opening paragraphs I can recall, and closing
>paragraph, too.
My dad explained to my 13-year-old self, mid-way through Great
Expections (which was in the process of dashing my great
expectations), that the book was written for a different age when
people had nothing more interesting to do than remember hundreds of
obscure characters and side stories. I felt somewhat better, but gave
Dickens a wide berth after that.
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(Msg. 62) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:59 am
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:23:40 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
<"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Kat Hein wrote:
>
>> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
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>> That's exactly what came to my mind. Okay, it helps that my first brush
>> with Austen was the A&E mini-series of Pride and Prejudice. Man, was I
>> missing out before then! Luckily, it was so well-done that I quickly
>> made up for the gap in my reading immediately.
That P&P rocked. Two Words: Darcy Skinnydipping. <hehehe>
>> The Hollywood version of
>> Emma, with Gwynneth Paltrow is extremely well done
Sorry hun, have to take issue with you here and prefer the Kate
Beckinsale.
>>, as well, as is Sense
>> and Sensibility. Heck, I even love Clueless! LOL
Both excellent. Austen is like Shakespeare in that she reflects
humans ver. 1.0 which is timeless.
>The "Mansfield Park" that came out a few years ago is good, too. Though
>they worked in some of Austen's own life, and tweaked the plot a bit more
>than would have been tolerable in another Austen novel. (They pepped up
>Fanny, the heroine, who is extremely passive by modern standards.)
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0178737/
That is a very good one. Inspired me to read the original finally.
<g>
>> Yes, some of them have been a little... dry. Which is sad, because
>> Austen is not dry, at all. And then there's the version of P&P with
>> Olivier... I couldn't get past the costuming in that one, let alone the
>> changes, and gave it up after about 15 minutes. Ugh.
>
>Indeed. I made it all the way through that version, but have never felt
>the urge to repeat the experience.
If I want a short version, the Olivier is fun. The character actors
are all over the top. Even Darcy's overbearing aunt is a laugh riot
(not correct per the book, but I always want to invite her for dinner
anyway). And the final cherry on the top is Darcy throwing his gloves
"anywhere" when he finds out Elizabeth is in the garden.
>If memory serves, BBC made a version of "Emma", starring Kate Beckinsdale,
>that I didn't like at all. Chicken thieves kept popping up at odd moments
>-- that was just weird.
It was hilarious. OK I will admit my sense of humor is not "per the
norm", but like Shakespeare again, Austin is very very VERY funny if
you know how to look at what she's showing you. Emma's dad makes DH
belly-laugh he's so funny.
>> Like The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe! Or the most recent version
>> of Little Women- with Winona Ryder, Susan Sarandon, etc. What I loved
>> about that movie was that where it deviated from the book- and I admit
>> it added some things- it did so in a historically accurate way. The book
>> was semi-autobiographical, and they took things from Louisa May Alcott's
>> real life, or at least conversations that I could totally believe her
>> having taken part in.
Another excellent interpretation! Although I have yet to see a
version where I really bought into Laurie really loving Amy instead
of making the best of any not-Jo. This version did about as good a
job of it as i've seen. The book didn't convince me, so I don't know
how a movie could.
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(Msg. 63) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:02 am
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:50:47 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
<"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>'Casablanca' is a MANLY movie? I've always heard it held up as the most
>romantic of films, which is not an adjective frequently applied to manly
>movies.
I believe it is because Rick does the right thing. Personally, I much
prefer Humphrey and Betty movies. Now there's a woman with a
back-bone.
><puzzled>Not sure how not liking Casablanca makes you a
>communist.</puzzled> Not sure how Casablanca pertains to anyone's opinion
>on systems for economic organization at all. :>
Oh he's just giving me a hard time. He's a conservative living in a
very very very blue area, so he's entitled to be grumpy.
>Never did do all Ovid. But I made it through some, as part of high school
>Latin. Around the same time my mother's group was reading Ovid, in fact
>(in translation). Poor Mom. Her kids (in Latin classes) kept volunteering
>to help her read Ovid in the original.
Well ... it's like Canterbury Tales ... someone must have told me Ovid
was "adult" <waggles eyebrows>.
>She *enjoyed* James Joyce. Some days I wonder how it is we can be related.
My only exposure to Joyce was snippets explained by Joseph Campbell.
Probably safer that way.
>I, on the other hand, enjoyed Gone with the Wind. :>
There, there dear, we check our sanity at the door here. <Cheshire
Cat grin>
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:31 am
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m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMagewrote:
> The fact that PBS (the USA public TV station) ...
Nitpick for the benefit of our non-US readers: PBS is a producer of
materials for noncommercial television stations, and is not itself a
station. See the website at www.pbs.org.
Joe Morris
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:34 am
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:10:43 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> Kat Hein wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>> I did start Anna Karenina a couple times. Just like I started A Tale of
>>> Two Cities at least 5 times.
>> Really? A Tale of Two Cities, I've read. Enjoyed it, in fact. Kudos for
>> one of the most poetic opening paragraphs I can recall, and closing
>> paragraph, too.
>
> My dad explained to my 13-year-old self, mid-way through Great
> Expections (which was in the process of dashing my great
> expectations), that the book was written for a different age when
> people had nothing more interesting to do than remember hundreds of
> obscure characters and side stories. I felt somewhat better, but gave
> Dickens a wide berth after that.
>
> The Bookwurm
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The only Dickens I've successfully read all the way through- other than
A Christmas Carol- is David Copperfield. That one, I even enjoyed. I
purchased Oliver Twist one year in high school because it was a book the
Lit teacher always made them read, and I wanted to to be able to read it
when it wasn't a class assignment, which almost always make things
worse. Then the high schools in the city merged and I got a different
teacher who didn't make us suffer through it. Yay!
I also managed to avoid ever being forced to finish A Tale of Two Cities
this way. It was supposed to be required reading in 10th grade. My
teacher HATED the book, so he had to send a note home to all of our
parents to get permission to cover To Kill a Mockingbird instead.
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SAMK wrote:
> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
>> Bookwyrm wrote:
>>> Rhino 7 wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Bookwurm (who did finish War and Peace but not Anna Karenina)
>>>
>>> Bookwyrm had never read (nor plans to read) War and Peace nor Anna
>>> Karenina.
>>> (But the movie of AK isn't *too* bad -- except for the wet kleenex of
>>> a actress who plays AK...)
>>
>> I've never read either.
>>
>> But my mother's reading group made it through both. Perhaps the
>> support group was necessary to motivate them... on the other hand,
>> they are very tough readers. Ovid, Faulkner, James Joyce, Marcel
>> Proust... Maybe Tolstoy wasn't so much of a leap.
>>
>> She's been in the same reading group for 20+ years. Pretty cool.
>>
>
> Wow, even though they continue to torment her with such dreck? 
>
> Daughter just finished _The Great Gatsby_ for school. We agreed it was
> full of whiny characters who never did anything but complain.
Amen!
>
> SAMK
> (whose college degree is in English Lit. Really.)
Me too. LOL
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:42 am
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Rhino 7 wrote:
>> Anyone else have Good Books that they failed to finish the first time and
>> mean to try reading again?
>
> Oh probably more Mark Twain. The travel novels and such that I was
> too young to "get" before now.
>
> <glances over at the library shelves>
>
> Kipling and Ogden Nash for poetry.
>
> The full-length version of Les Miserables. I did not like the edited
> down version, and I was told that the full book is much better.
>
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I read it in French, and have no idea if it was abridged or not. I like
the overall story, but Hugo really is very dry.
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:58 am
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m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
> Kat Hein wrote:
>
>> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
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>>> Edna wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <13qmrb43i0vht51 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com> wrote:
>>> <snip - reading Dune>
>>>> I read all six as a teenager, but haven't gotten back to them since.
>>>> I try not to see movies based on books I actually liked, since
>>>> they're never as good as the book.
>>>
>>> By that logic, I'd never see any movie adaptations of Austen novels.
>>> Instead, I try to see them alllllll...
>>
>> That's exactly what came to my mind. Okay, it helps that my first
>> brush with Austen was the A&E mini-series of Pride and Prejudice. Man,
>> was I missing out before then! Luckily, it was so well-done that I
>> quickly made up for the gap in my reading immediately. The Hollywood
>> version of Emma, with Gwynneth Paltrow is extremely well done, as
>> well, as is Sense and Sensibility. Heck, I even love Clueless! LOL
>
> The fact that PBS (the USA public TV station) has been doing Austen
> movies every Sunday for the past few weeks probably makes them spring to
> mind a bit faster than usual. :>
>
> And that P&P miniseries has converted more women to Austen fandom than
> anything else in recent years. A friend of mine organized a public
> viewing of it in a UCBerkeley lecture hall, years ago -- mass conversion
> of people into fans! (Shown over multiple Thursdays. Not all one night!)
When I'm feeling blue, I will get out the DVDs and watch it all in one
sitting. But it's not just women it has converted. Jesse gave me Looks
when I told him that he'd enjoy Austen. He very relunctantly agreed to
watch the mini-series with me. (then only owned on VHS LOL) We started
it late-ish at night during the week, figuring that I could get him to
watch an hour a night. When I wanted to stop after the first
tape/episode so we could go to bed, he didn't want to stop!
>
> The "Mansfield Park" that came out a few years ago is good, too. Though
> they worked in some of Austen's own life, and tweaked the plot a bit
> more than would have been tolerable in another Austen novel. (They
> pepped up Fanny, the heroine, who is extremely passive by modern
> standards.)
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0178737/
I've seen it. Yes, it was pretty good. In fact, I may like it better
than the novel- Fanny did need a little pepping.
The 2005 version of P&P with Kiera Knightly was passable, as well.
Obviously not as good as the mini-series, since they had to compress it
all into a 2 hour movie, but entertaining. Donald Sutherland made for an
excellent Mr Bennet.
>
>>> (Mind you, with many Austen adaptations, once is enough.)
>>
>> Yes, some of them have been a little... dry. Which is sad, because
>> Austen is not dry, at all. And then there's the version of P&P with
>> Olivier... I couldn't get past the costuming in that one, let alone
>> the changes, and gave it up after about 15 minutes. Ugh.
>
> Indeed. I made it all the way through that version, but have never felt
> the urge to repeat the experience.
>
> If memory serves, BBC made a version of "Emma", starring Kate
> Beckinsdale, that I didn't like at all. Chicken thieves kept popping up
> at odd moments -- that was just weird.
I liked that one, but not as much as the Hollywood adaptation. The
Chicken Thieves didn't bother me, since it set up for the end, which the
Hollywood version glossed over.
>
>>> Did you not see the LOTR movie trilogy?
>>>
>>> And, yes, I agree that mostly movie adaptations are a severe
>>> disappointment. On the other hand, when the movie is good it can be
>>> Very Very Good.
>>
>> Like The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe! Or the most recent version
>> of Little Women- with Winona Ryder, Susan Sarandon, etc. What I loved
>> about that movie was that where it deviated from the book- and I admit
>> it added some things- it did so in a historically accurate way. The
>> book was semi-autobiographical, and they took things from Louisa May
>> Alcott's real life, or at least conversations that I could totally
>> believe her having taken part in.
>
> I love that version of "Little Women"! One of the movies I like to take
> out and watch in wintertime. So nice to see a movie about young sisters
> who love each other (most of the time).
>
> Unlike real sisters, who spend most of their childhoods trying to tear
> out one another's hair. :>
I don't know, Jo sure did try to tear Amy's hair out after she burnt her
stories! *GGG*
It definitely is a good winter movie.
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SAMK wrote:
> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
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>> Bookwyrm wrote:
>>> Rhino 7 wrote:
<snip - "good" books>
>> But my mother's reading group made it through both. Perhaps the
>> support group was necessary to motivate them... on the other hand,
>> they are very tough readers. Ovid, Faulkner, James Joyce, Marcel
>> Proust... Maybe Tolstoy wasn't so much of a leap.
>>
>> She's been in the same reading group for 20+ years. Pretty cool.
>
> Wow, even though they continue to torment her with such dreck?
They pick their dreck democratically, so mom's had her fair vote in picking
all those authors. I worry about my mom, sometimes. But she likes
Sherlock Holmes, so her taste isn't totally irredeemable.
> Daughter just finished _The Great Gatsby_ for school. We agreed it was
> full of whiny characters who never did anything but complain.
Never read that one, though I begin to fear I may be the only USA citizen
who hasn't.
> SAMK
> (whose college degree is in English Lit. Really.)
Truly? How did you survive all the classes?
(I minored in English Lit., but you only needed to take 4-5 classes for
that, and I made it through with mostly Shakespeare courses.)
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(Msg. 70) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:53 pm
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:56:52 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Rhino 7 wrote:
<snip -- classics one means to read>
>>>The full-length version of Les Miserables. I did not like the edited
>>>down version, and I was told that the full book is much better.
>>
>>Errr. There's an edited version of Les Miserables? How long? (I.e., if I
>>read a 700-800-ish length version, umpteen years ago, was that the full or
>>edited version?)
>
> Didn't like the 600-pager ... have a copy of the 1500-pager for later.
> <wink>
Hmmmm. What I read may have been the edited version. Or not -- I recall
small print and narrow margins. I wonder if that library still has the
same copy?
>>Ogden Nash is worth giving a go to. I read a "best of" book of his work. :>
>
> Favorite poem so far: "Custard the Cowardly Dragon".
I like that one! Found an illustrated version made into a book for little
kids, and bought several copies to use as gifts for small kids I know (and
their parents).
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:10:43 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Kat Hein wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>>I did start Anna Karenina a couple times. Just like I started A Tale of
>>>Two Cities at least 5 times.
>>
>>Really? A Tale of Two Cities, I've read. Enjoyed it, in fact. Kudos for
>>one of the most poetic opening paragraphs I can recall, and closing
>>paragraph, too.
>
> My dad explained to my 13-year-old self, mid-way through Great
> Expections (which was in the process of dashing my great
> expectations), that the book was written for a different age when
> people had nothing more interesting to do than remember hundreds of
> obscure characters and side stories. I felt somewhat better, but gave
> Dickens a wide berth after that.
It may have helped that I was 19 or so when I tackled Tale of Two Cities.
And pre-primed by a friend who likes it to like it myself.
And I was in a boring job, so I had ample time to track side stories, once
the candy was restocked. :>
Great Expectations, on the other hand, I didn't think much of. <snooze>
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:23:40 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Kat Hein wrote:
<snip - Austen adaptations>
>>If memory serves, BBC made a version of "Emma", starring Kate Beckinsdale,
>>that I didn't like at all. Chicken thieves kept popping up at odd moments
>>-- that was just weird.
>
> It was hilarious. OK I will admit my sense of humor is not "per the
> norm", but like Shakespeare again, Austen is very very VERY funny if
> you know how to look at what she's showing you. Emma's dad makes DH
> belly-laugh he's so funny.
That's the thing that bugged me about the BBC 'Emma'. There aren't any
chicken thieves in the novel. There are in the BBC version. Perhaps my
brain got hung up on that and didn't see the other, finer points of that
version of 'Emma'.
>>>Like The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe! Or the most recent version
>>>of Little Women- with Winona Ryder, Susan Sarandon, etc. What I loved
>>>about that movie was that where it deviated from the book- and I admit
>>>it added some things- it did so in a historically accurate way. The book
>>>was semi-autobiographical, and they took things from Louisa May Alcott's
>>>real life, or at least conversations that I could totally believe her
>>>having taken part in.
>
> Another excellent interpretation! Although I have yet to see a
> version where I really bought into Laurie really loving Amy instead
> of making the best of any not-Jo. This version did about as good a
> job of it as i've seen. The book didn't convince me, so I don't know
> how a movie could.
I found Laurie loving Amy easier to believe in in the after-Little-Women
novels. In Little Women, the memories of "Amy the childhood brat" were
still too vivid. In later novels, Amy the child brat was long gone, and
the shared interests and tastes of Laurie & Amy were stronger in mind.
On the other hand, I know people who were childhood brats and grew up into
quite tolerable adults. Brathood need not be a permanent condition,
thankfully.
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:23:40 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Kat Hein wrote:
>>
>>> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
>>>
>>> That's exactly what came to my mind. Okay, it helps that my first brush
>>> with Austen was the A&E mini-series of Pride and Prejudice. Man, was I
>>> missing out before then! Luckily, it was so well-done that I quickly
>>> made up for the gap in my reading immediately.
>
> That P&P rocked. Two Words: Darcy Skinnydipping. <hehehe>
*G* Don't even need the skinnydipping. Just Colin Firth! Yumm!
>
>>> The Hollywood version of
>>> Emma, with Gwynneth Paltrow is extremely well done
>
> Sorry hun, have to take issue with you here and prefer the Kate
> Beckinsale.
OMG, I just looked it up and have realized that I have NOT seen the Kate
Beckinsale version! *faint* The one I dislike is the 1972 version with
Doran Godwin. Must correct this IMMEDIATELY.
>
>>> , as well, as is Sense
>>> and Sensibility. Heck, I even love Clueless! LOL
>
> Both excellent. Austen is like Shakespeare in that she reflects
> humans ver. 1.0 which is timeless.
Yeah, but I've seen some really terrible versions of Shakespeare! That--
thing ---with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes, for one. Ugh.
>
>> The "Mansfield Park" that came out a few years ago is good, too. Though
>> they worked in some of Austen's own life, and tweaked the plot a bit more
>> than would have been tolerable in another Austen novel. (They pepped up
>> Fanny, the heroine, who is extremely passive by modern standards.)
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0178737/
>
> That is a very good one. Inspired me to read the original finally.
> <g>
>
>>> Yes, some of them have been a little... dry. Which is sad, because
>>> Austen is not dry, at all. And then there's the version of P&P with
>>> Olivier... I couldn't get past the costuming in that one, let alone the
>>> changes, and gave it up after about 15 minutes. Ugh.
>> Indeed. I made it all the way through that version, but have never felt
>> the urge to repeat the experience.
>
> If I want a short version, the Olivier is fun. The character actors
> are all over the top. Even Darcy's overbearing aunt is a laugh riot
> (not correct per the book, but I always want to invite her for dinner
> anyway). And the final cherry on the top is Darcy throwing his gloves
> "anywhere" when he finds out Elizabeth is in the garden.
It's too silly for me. And the horrible VICTORIAN costumes. Well, and
Olivier just doesn't do it for me, either. He's not even a Maththew
MacFadyen (as Darcy, not in life), let alone a Colin Firth!
>
>> If memory serves, BBC made a version of "Emma", starring Kate Beckinsdale,
>> that I didn't like at all. Chicken thieves kept popping up at odd moments
>> -- that was just weird.
>
> It was hilarious. OK I will admit my sense of humor is not "per the
> norm", but like Shakespeare again, Austin is very very VERY funny if
> you know how to look at what she's showing you. Emma's dad makes DH
> belly-laugh he's so funny.
Darn it, and we're not subscribed to Netflix right now!!!
>
>>> Like The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe! Or the most recent version
>>> of Little Women- with Winona Ryder, Susan Sarandon, etc. What I loved
>>> about that movie was that where it deviated from the book- and I admit
>>> it added some things- it did so in a historically accurate way. The book
>>> was semi-autobiographical, and they took things from Louisa May Alcott's
>>> real life, or at least conversations that I could totally believe her
>>> having taken part in.
>
> Another excellent interpretation! Although I have yet to see a
> version where I really bought into Laurie really loving Amy instead
> of making the best of any not-Jo. This version did about as good a
> job of it as i've seen. The book didn't convince me, so I don't know
> how a movie could.
>
Very true. I can believe that Amy was in love with HIM, but not always
vice versa. I also like that they had Amy played by 2 actresses and her
actually BE 11 in the beginning of the story, like she was supposed to be.
It's sure better than the silly version where they changed birth order
to make Elizabeth Taylor Amy. (although Margaret O'Brien was a very good
Beth) and as much as I usually love Katharine Hepburn, I wasn't wild
about the 1933 version and her portrayal of Jo.
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Kat Hein wrote:
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>> Sorry hun, have to take issue with you here and prefer the Kate
>> Beckinsale.
>
> OMG, I just looked it up and have realized that I have NOT seen the Kate
> Beckinsale version! *faint* The one I dislike is the 1972 version with
> Doran Godwin. Must correct this IMMEDIATELY.
>
Hmmm, ETA: Looking at Amazon, maybe I have seen it. Once. When it was on
A&E originally. But it's been so long, I think I still need to own it
and watch it again! *GGG*
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:50:47 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> 'Casablanca' is a MANLY movie? I've always heard it held up as the
>> most romantic of films, which is not an adjective frequently applied
>> to manly movies.
>
> I believe it is because Rick does the right thing. Personally, I much
> prefer Humphrey and Betty movies. Now there's a woman with a back-bone.
Is one of those the one with the "Do you know how to whistle?" line? A
line which, looking at it typed all dry and dull in black and white, loses
quite a lot of character written on a page.
>> <puzzled>Not sure how not liking Casablanca makes you a
>> communist.</puzzled> Not sure how Casablanca pertains to anyone's
>> opinion on systems for economic organization at all. :>
>
> Oh he's just giving me a hard time. He's a conservative living in a
> very very very blue area, so he's entitled to be grumpy.
In the middle of political season -- I can see why he'd be grumpy.
>> Never did do all Ovid. But I made it through some, as part of high
>> school Latin. Around the same time my mother's group was reading
>> Ovid, in fact (in translation). Poor Mom. Her kids (in Latin
>> classes) kept volunteering to help her read Ovid in the original.
>
> Well ... it's like Canterbury Tales ... someone must have told me Ovid
> was "adult" <waggles eyebrows>.
Somehow, those bits weren't the ones that wound up in Latin class...
>> She *enjoyed* James Joyce. Some days I wonder how it is we can be
>> related.
>
> My only exposure to Joyce was snippets explained by Joseph Campbell.
> Probably safer that way.
Definitely!
>> I, on the other hand, enjoyed Gone with the Wind. :>
>
> There, there dear, we check our sanity at the door here. <Cheshire Cat
> grin>
I suspect I checked it a looooong time ago.
--
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